10 January 2010

10/01/10




Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon in 49 BC.  The London Underground opened in 1863.

Born today:  Rod Stewart (1945), Aynsley Dunbar (1946) and Donald Fagen (1948).

It is PhilippaB's birthday everywhere that matters.

149 comments:

  1. Morning all

    Joyeux Anniversaire Phillipa! xx

    Looking at the snow and wondering if it is worth even trying to get to extreme East London tomorrow. It is a journey that normally takes me a couple of hours on a good day on public transport as it is, train, tube and bus. I might be able to drive, I guess, if the roads have not been turned into ice rinks. Argh.

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  2. Happy Birthday Phillipa!!! X

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  3. Morning folks.

    Happy birthday, Philippa!

    The snow round here seems to be thawing a little this morning. It was -9C outside one day last week & the roads are a nightmare, so any slight warm up is more than welcome.

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  4. Morning all.

    Hartelijk gefeliciteerd Philippa!

    +5C overcast in Budapest. They say cold again next week, so it will be the third time that we have temps swings of 15 or 20 degrees within a day or two.

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  5. Happy Birthday, Flipper!

    Just started snowing again here. All the live football's been postponed so once I've been to the beer shop for essential supplies, I'm hunkering down here for the day, you lucky people.

    Some great posts by our band of frustrated novelists last night btw.

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  6. Joyeux Pâques, Philippa!

    Oh. Obviously I haven't quite recovered from yesterday's silly mood.

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  7. Happy Birthday Philippa. Fine sleet here, but there's a definite thaw in the air... more snow forecast for tomorrow though. Very hungover daughter was picked up by her father this am for the trek back to uni - think she'll be sleeping most of the way there, it'll recharge her batteries nicely before she goes out tonight...

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  8. Philippa pen-blwydd hapus!!!!

    Try to snow again here. Having a lazier day than usual because I had daughter and bf to dinner yesterday and spent all day cooking.

    My daughter, who is a cleanfreak with tidy-itus insisted on doing the washing up and tidying the kitchen so all I had to do this morning was wash to pans she had left to soak! :))))

    Going back to the Margaret Drabble thread, some interesting points, depression has many causes and I do think we are too easily persuaded to take medication that, in many cases, is completely useless.

    In my case I think it happened because the events of my life were too stressful. Not sure how I could have avoided that. When the stress went I started functioning properly again.

    This obviously doesn't happen with everybody with a weight problem but as stress is a factor in so many of our lives these days it could in part explain the rise in obesity (imho)

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  9. Glücklicher Geburtstag Phillipa!

    Thawing here too - but still feels bloody cold. Hang on - it's just started to snow. don't bank on it getting any warmer MsC - I've just seen the forecast for next week!!

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  10. Hang on, no-one's done Spanish yet, so felíz cumpleaños, Philippa!

    It's been snowing lightly here all day, but no sign yet of the pounding that was forecast. Damn.

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  11. 'Ray! Hello everyone, thank you for the musical birthday cards and greetings! Am a bit of an 'altered image' this arvo, but that's possibly more because the heating seems to have packed up. Brrrrrrrrr....

    According to my local yahoo new reports, there is a 'risque fort' of an avalanche at the moment, which seems kinda unlikely. What with there not being any snow within ten miles of the city. And only one mountain. Anyway, have done the post-party stocktake:
    1 bottle rose
    1 bottle red
    2 bottles vodka, half-drunk (one of which actually seems to have frozen, that's not right, no?)
    1 unopened bottle Grants Scottish whisky
    1 hat
    1 glove
    1 leather hold-all

    Not a bad haul.

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  12. tanti auguri!! buon compleanno...!!Philippa

    bit of italian as we are all a bunch of polyglotes here....

    well no snow here never snow here...:( and fingers crossed no rain today..bit of a brisk wind though....

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  13. plus - the crossing of the rubicon and Donald Fagen? That's a good birthday to share...

    Merci
    Danke
    Grazie
    Gracias
    Spasiba
    Dank U
    erm...
    that's me limit...

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  14. Hjertelig tillykke med fødselsdagen, Philippa

    here's a song

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  15. Birthday song that neatly combines Philippa's and Don's.

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  17. Heh heh - was playing a bit of the Dan last night, actually! Spotify / Deezer does make for good party music (if you can ignore the adverts). We ended up working our way through Clapton's genesis to try to work out where it all went wrong...

    Plus, now I have all my paintings up in the lounge while Dr Parnassus at the bookshop refits his shelving, I have made another sale! I'd normally stay away from karmic interpretations of stuff, but it does seem interesting that the one they picked was an over-painting, which was originally of their cats. Anyway, that's another €40 to play with...

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  19. Happy day PhilB - I' back to my Inuit style hibernation.

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  20. Phil - it all went wrong when he sobered up.

    Congratulations on the sale!

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  21. Afternoon everyone.

    Sounds like you did well from the party residue, Pip. Always the good thing about having a party - if you calculate it right you end up with as much booze as you bought! :o)

    Hope you are keeping yourself warm and well-fed, deano. Stocked up with enough food to last you through?

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  22. Yea life organised BB _ always carry stocks to see me thro Armageddon so a little snow no prob xx.

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  23. Just dropped in again for a moment.

    Hey BB

    What did you say to get deleted on the 'class matters' CiF thread? Just being nosey!

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  24. Ooh, Black Hole Sun on 6 Music!
    May have to venture out shortly, am running out of fags. Damnit.

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  25. BB

    I see now - something to do with Pink Floyd, whom I presume you quoted.

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  26. MsChin

    I quoted the first few verses of Dogs by Pink Floyd. Clearly the mods thought the Graun was on dodgy ground...

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  27. Oooooh, scherfig! Thanks for reminding me about Anne Linnet. I used to have the Barndommens Gade album on tape -- on the other side of the cassette that I'd taped Nutidens Unge on. Loved that album -- how did I manage to forget her?

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  28. Black Hole Sun as in Soundgarden, Phil?

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  29. Ay - for some reason I just love that song - it's like Dean Martin went goth and recorded his vocals at 66% speed...

    Anyway - Jarvis Cocker's first show on 6music - it started well with a very lengthy pause - and he played a song called 'Snowed In' by Tim Rose. I went to look the guy up and that's a pretty varied life there. May have to look up some other stuff of his - anybody familiar and can recommend a good place to start?

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  30. It's a good song. And a freaky video. But I could watch paint dry if Chris Cornell were standing in front of it.

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  31. you're offering me pencils? now i'm really confused...

    heh heh

    thank you!

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  32. Anyone know about when it was that Jay posted that link to a programme that lets you download audio off YouTube -- or have the link? I just found this and you can't buy it anywhere, as near as I can tell. (And some Anne Linnet might find its way to my iTunes library, too....)

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  33. @Montana - I don't know if this is the one Jay recommended, but it would seem to do the job...

    Converter

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  34. "...you're offering me pencils? now i'm really confused.."

    Dearest PB that is exactly what my my much loved granddaughter said when I gave her a few shillings to buy some lead when she started at Glasgow (McIntosh) School of Art last Autumn. Artists' seem have an attraction to confusion...

    I don't quite know how to explain it.

    xx. birthday lass..

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  35. Well fuck my toe - as most Ut's will know I have no connect with contemporary music beyond Dave Brubeck and then shortly after I found him I found Mozart et al.

    That said, my passage thro life included Rod Stewart ................let us have Rod evening?

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  37. Deano - I've never been much of a Rod Stewart fan as his ego far eclipses his talent, but I do like a few of them. The one you linked to ain't bad, and I like this one with Jeff Beck: People Get Ready.

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  38. thauma - I kinda think the guy has the same problem as Jack Kerouach - insecure footing.

    I know you ain't ipmressed with Jack either - but it don't stop me loving you...

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  39. WOO HOOOO!!!!! Software successfully downloaded. Stinkfist playing on iTunes RIGHT NOW! Peter -- you've made me a very happy woman today!

    (And I'm totally with Thauma on the Rod Stewart thing...)

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  40. Rod and the Faces were great. It all went down-hill in about 1973.

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  41. Cheers Scherf - this a favourite of mine:

    Cool Rod

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  42. Deano - what a good memory you have! Yeah, Kerouac rather disgusts me.

    Here is present for you (seems to me to suit you down to the ground): Delta Lady.

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  43. Montana - your lack of grown upness won't stop me loving you either.

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  44. I can only take Rod in very small doses, and I do believe I've surpassed the limit now.

    Here's a homage to ... er, a friend: Tall Cool One.

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  45. Cocker is not only lucky of name but class of song..xx

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  46. I couldn't possibly comment on this very topical song. (Although you couldn't make it up.) :0)

    any way you look at it, you're fucked

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  47. thauma - I played your tune , not one I'd heard.

    I loved it, I loved the rattle off the back cloud - you have taste young miss.

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  48. Oh fuck not the chronology tune (Plant has no feet) the one above the one (people get ready) was the one I admired.

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  49. Ah the 60-year-old Christian bigot and her 19-year-old lover. Nice tribute, scherfig. It would take a heart of stone not to laugh.

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  50. Ah the 19 year-old Christian bigot and her 60 year old lover. Life is complex for some.

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  51. Too complex for me, deano, clearly.

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  52. Another lovely, if sombre, Joe Cocker choon: Do I Still Figure In Your Life?.

    The Hammond organ is a beautiful thing.

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  53. Hank - my comrade don't pause for breath. You are worth it.

    Despite yourself you is a star our kid.

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  54. @BB - just been reading the Longhi thread and was gonna flag up the fact that your old pal Monnie is posting the usual crap, but I've scrolled down and see that you're on the case.

    Who is "butforthesixties"? Not a name I recognise but he seems to be a Ciffer of long-standing. Did skimmer go as far as referring to "race replacement"?

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  55. Thanks deano, that's quite the most touching back-handed compliment I've received this year (-;

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  56. No it isn't skimmer - skimmer is posting as "cruellestmonth" at the moment, so I keep calling him April. :D

    butforthesixties is the Majority Rights nutter who has been banned virtually every other day under different nicks. If the BNP are bad, Marjority Rights are sickos... I won't link their website on here, but you can google it if you want to take a look. They are white supremacists. Ugh.

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  57. Thauma - I liked that Jerry lee lewis thing.

    I married cos I fell on the lass, and then again, and yet again.

    And when I thought about sometime later I really had no basis for complaint.

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  58. Deano - hah - which one did you think was the JLL one?

    Here's another one for you: This time you've gone too far.

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  59. Loving the Robert Plant that's coming out of my speakers right now. He gives Roger Daltrey some stiff competition in the "Best filling of faded denim" category. But Rog still wins.

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  60. Do you suppose I ought to take my Christmas tree down now?

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  61. Montana, bite your tongue! Daltrey is only about the height of a coffee table and Plant, as I pointed out earlier, is the Tall Cool One.

    "Stiff competition" *snicker*

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  62. Unlike you, my dear thaumaturge, I am not hightist. Short doesn't bother me a bit -- especially when it looks like Roger Daltrey -- who only seems to get better looking with age.

    I wouldn't have minded taking a dip from this well, either.

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  63. thauma

    "Dave Edmunds - I Knew The Bride"

    but the fact is I do like a discordant note

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  64. Montana - in a dim light with a strong wind in the eyes,


    I have been mistaken for ...


    I don't suppose

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  65. Montana - now that's a thing I hated about the 80s. Bloke with great voice - why not real instruments? Drum machines are horrible. Synthesizers are OK in the right hands (eg Eno or Kraftwerk) but why wreck what would otherwise be a great song? Give that song guitars and a Hammond organ and it would be sublime....

    Scherf - did you miss my link upthread? ;-) Great minds....

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  66. Spooky, thauma! Same video, too! Get GIYUS on the case - it could be mind-rays being beamed from outer space.

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  67. This is the most impressive drum kit I've ever seen.

    Quite like the song too.

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  68. Indeed, Scherfig, my fabulous tarantula-themed necklace is pulsing with pent-up power as I write this....

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  69. I despise Hutton nontheless I insist my three kids read this:

    William Hutton at large

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  70. Evenin'.
    Nothing wrong with a bit of TTD, Montana. Here's a seldom heard one. Watch out for a brief cameo appearance by Thauma with a gun.

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  71. Hmm. 80s music. I generally dislike it.

    However, this is a vast improvement on a country song: Some fools speak of happiness .

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  72. Nazareth, thauma? Jesus.

    And that version is better than Gram and Emmylou's? Step away from the anti-gramophone.

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  73. Habib - I always keep my guns well-oiled, close to hand and loaded but I don't often fire them.

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  74. Hank, I know. But I fuckin' hate country. I love Emmylou with Lanois producing her though: Wrecking Ball.

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  75. Country's a broad church, thauma. Some of it is crass redneck shit, and some of it is soul music in the true sense of the term.

    bobbygentry

    elvisgoespsycho

    don'tworryme

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  76. What happens when you play a country song backwards?

    Your wife comes back, the cows come home and your pick-up gets fixed.

    Here's a country song that really reflects the American south.

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  77. Good god, Hank, how much country do you expect us all to put up with? The first two of your earlier links weren't too bad (because they were only arguably 'country'), but the third was horrid.

    I will click on the latest lot, but be assured that the window will be closed post-haste if too much countrification is in evidence.

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  78. Oh, snap! I posted Lyle before I'd gotten caught up with all the links.

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  79. Ah, c'mon thauma, you can't dismiss an entire musical genre just because of slavery and a few lynchings. The Beatles were from Liverpool after all, the exit point for the European slave trade.

    You might as well argue that Ireland should be carpet-bombed because it spawned Bono and his wanky "I'm so angry I'm gonna live in a tax haven" shite.

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  80. Ah well, I've always liked Last Thing On My Mind. While I don't dare diss the great Gram, I think I prefer the folkier version.

    The second song reminded me a bit of this one, which certainly has a country influence!

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  81. Hank

    Pure fuckin genius...as they would bleat on CIF

    ...are you serious proposing a moral equivalence betweem the dismissal of a musical genre and the annihilation of the Emerald Isle?

    Hank

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  82. Oooh, Montana, that's a bitter song but a great one.

    Hank, well, if you want to get political, I don't recall any Irish supporting the slave trade. But plenty of English did, as well as the Southern-state Americans. :-P

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  83. Asked Mrs Fish about the chances of making the Midland soiree earlier...received an eye-rolling and eyebrow raising in response...biding my time...not sure how it'll pan out but I think it might require a bit of decorating on my part...apparently the bathroom needs doing..how do women know that shit? I've had no difficulties getting a bath/shave etc. ..how does the place come to be dysfunctional all of a sudden?

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  84. MF - many thanks for the sentiment but I coulden listen to tha feckin song. Shuddered and had to turn it aff.

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  85. MF - why not bring her too? You could never do the decorating while both of you are away.

    p.s. Don't ask me. I get used to any irregularities in the house and then don't notice them.

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  86. thauma

    Actually..you're incredibly wrong on that one...huge numbers of Lancashire cotton workers went on strike, suffered enormous hardships and refused to process confederate cotton...it's how the Indian cotton industry was started..it was a major factor in the defeat of the Confederacy. They were thanked profusely by Lincoln for their sacrifice...as it happens..only Liverpool supported the South..Cammell Laird built ships which were intended to break the blockade of Southern ports..it's one of those forgotten moments of British history. The huge recent irony is that the likes of Burnley, Darwen and Bolton which bore the brunt of the hardship are now breeding grounds for the far right.

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  87. #MF - why not bring her too? You could never do the decorating while both of you are away.#

    cos when I got back the place would look like the day after Armageddon. My kids aren't exactly civilised in the traditional sense.

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  88. MF, I didn't mean the workers, I meant the feckin guvmint! (Who were in bed with the US cotton industry, IIRC.)

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  89. bestversionofrollingstones

    @MF - the Emerald Isle hasn't been annihilated, you drama queen. Shoulda, coulda, but at the end of the day, we needed their potatoes.

    @thauma - no Irish at all supporting the slave trade? Not even Lord Londonderry? I'm pretty damned sure none of my folks supported the slave trade, and some of them emigrated to North London to spawn the paddies who eventually spawned me.

    Politics is and always will be about class and economic interests. The idiots who wave their flags like a badge of honour or courage at international sporting events, particularly when middle class Irish rugger chaps swap pleasantries and half-arsed insults with middle class English rugger chaps, should be strung up by their compatriots alongside those hypocrites who make money from "Sunday Bloody Sunday" and move all that money to Switzerland.

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  90. Am more a Jimmie Rodgers man, but do like Hank Williams.

    His songwriting peers ranked him the best. As Len the Man said

    I said to Hank Williams
    How lonely does it get
    Hank Williams hasn't answered yet
    But I hear him coughing all night long
    A hundred floors above me
    In the Tower of Song.

    Billy Connolly used to get really mad when people took the piss out of country - fact i think he picked Long Gone Lonesome Blues as his top choice on Desert island Discs.

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  91. But still, MF, I didn't know that, and it's a good thing to know. Well done to those workers.

    IMHO, the US Civil War wasn't about slavery at all; it was about economic victory. Abolition of slavery was just a happy side-effect.

    Day after Armageddon

    Sounds like my gaff most days.

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  92. Here ya go..

    On 19 January 1863, Abraham Lincoln sent an address thanking the cotton workers of Lancashire for their support. He wrote:

    ... I know and deeply deplore the sufferings which the working people of Manchester and in all Europe are called to endure in this crisis. It has been often and studiously represented that the attempt to overthrow this Government which was built on the foundation of human rights, and to substitute for it one which should rest exclusively on the basis of slavery, was unlikely to obtain the favour of Europe.

    Through the action of disloyal citizens, the working people of Europe have been subjected to a severe trial for the purpose of forcing their sanction to that attempt. Under the circumstances I cannot but regard your decisive utterances on the question as an instance of sublime Christian heroism which has not been surpassed in any age or in any country. It is indeed an energetic and re-inspiring assurance of the inherent truth and of the ultimate and universal triumph of justice, humanity and freedom.

    I hail this interchange of sentiments, therefore, as an augury that, whatever else may happen, whatever misfortune may befall your country or my own, the peace and friendship which now exists between the two nations will be, as it shall be my desire to make them, perpetual.
    —Abraham Lincoln, 19 January, 1863

    Booyakasha..

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  93. So am I the only person who thought the carpet-bombing comment was tongue-in-cheek?

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  94. Happy New Year, Edwin, don't see you around these parts this time of night much.

    Can't say I blame you, tbh. Drunken paddies and scousers everywhere you turn.

    I'm shocked, disgusted, appalled, but, above all that, I feel at home (-:

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  95. Edwin, that's a top tune.

    Hank, you are just trying to wind me up now; 'tis all too obvious. You mention "Ireland", "rugger" (by which I assume you mean 'rugby'), and "middle-class", which is completely incongruous.

    Lord Londonderry - interesting case. The Lady Londonderry of the 20s was apparently having an affair with Michael Collins.

    Lovely place they had on the Ards peninsula; Mr Collins was a frequent guest before his untimely demise.

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  96. What shall we do with the drunken scouser, early in the morning?

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  97. @Montana - yep, you were probably the only one. I didn't take the "carpet-bombing" comment seriously because our best intelligence says that carpets haven't yet sold well "over there".

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  98. Well, hello there, Mr. Scorpio. I didn't think you saw me sitting over here.

    I just felt like listening to this.

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  99. @Thauma - nope, I'm not trying to wind you up at all. Just pointing out the obvious - patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.

    I support England when they're playing football and cricket. When they're playing rugger, I support the opposition, as much as I support anyone or take an interest.

    I support England in football and cricket because I identify with the supporters more than the players. I can't support England playing rugby because I know that if I met any of the players or the supporters, I'd fucking hate them. Philip Toynbee (Polly's grandad) said it all about the rugger chaps back in the 30s, ie if the West Stand at Twickenham was bombed at an international game, the threat of fascism in England would be wiped out for a generation.

    Rugger in Ireland and Scotland seems similarly cursed by privileged private school wankers with a sense of entitlement.

    Sorry thauma, but just like you have a prejudice against country music, I have a deep and abiding contempt for rugger.

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  100. That was a lovely song, Habib. I'm still waiting to find out what happened between the drunken Scouser and the Belgian socialite, myself.

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  101. Top tune, Montana (-;

    bitofnorthernsoul

    One of the things I love about Northern Soul, apart from the songs and the dancing, is that a lot of the singers went under pseudonyms. And Nosmo King was surely one of the best...

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  102. Glad you liked it -- it capturing my mood at the moment.

    OMFingG -- your Northern Soul link just started playing. this must have been a direct rip off of Nosmo's.

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  103. Sorry -- trying to do too many things at once. The words 'seems to be' were missing up there and I should explain that when your Nosmo King link (and yes, that is a brilliant name) started, I thought it must be an original version of the Maxine Nightingale song. But then the words were different. Kind of freaked me out a bit.

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  104. Bit more Northern Soul, Montana, dancing feet and happy times all round!

    frankwilson

    rdeantaylor

    alwilson

    nonstopdancing

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  105. Oh. I thought you'd gone. Just tried to cheer myself up a bit with this.

    Guess I'll listen to some more Northern Soul now.

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  106. "I'm still waiting to find out what happened between the drunken Scouser and the Belgian socialite, myself."
    :-)
    This answer just got played on the radio at exactly the same time as I read that.
    Lyrics here, for a wry chuckle.

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  107. Enjoying the NS. Weird how it must've been so much more popular in Britain that it was here. Never heard any of this.

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  108. Video not available in my area, Habib. That's okay, though. Dylan's voice and my ears do not agree with each other.

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  109. Sorry, Montana, try this - honestly, he can be quite tuneful, sometimes. A good vid, if nothing else.
    I never guessed that this was him, either.

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  110. Working my way through tonight's music - bloody good stuff all round.

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  111. It was never really that popular in Britain tbh, Montana. Very much a cult thing, and very much centred around Northern towns - Manchester, Sheffield, Wigan and Blackpool, hence the name.

    Anyway, if you're interested, here's the daddy of all Northern Soul songs -

    dobiegray

    ...and my personal favourite...

    sandisheldon

    ...and Paul Weller's personal tributes to his wasted youth listening to Northern...

    nonstopdancing

    ...and another...

    sweetsoulmusic

    Enjoy! x

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  112. Bugger, I was off to bed but now I'm on a Jam roll. Found some rare covers by a young Weller on youtube...

    beneking

    beatles

    kinks

    notacoverbutmeanssummattome!

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  113. Great music, Hank, much appreciated on this cold night.

    Here's a smooth voice, just for Montana. (Turn the volume up).

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  114. Hiya Medve! Wish there were more noble people to greet you.

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  115. heyhabib, hi.

    Got up damn early (in Europe). Either you are burning the midnight candle or you are in a North American time-zone.

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  116. or South, or Asian .. .. sorry, not properly awake yet

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  117. Nope, glamorous Manchester, England. Working (not much, in all honesty).

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  118. Jó munkát!

    that's Hungarian and it literally means "Good work(ing)", but hard to convey the sentiment in translation.

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  119. Do you fancy posting a Hungarian song?

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  120. Don't know if you like this genre.

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  121. Like the genre, sounds good - I'll try and find a translation. It reminded me of the Spin Doctors.

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  122. Mennyország means Heaven.

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  123. Time to deal with the breakfast of my boys.

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  124. Medve, the translation I could find was a bit:
    "Twas brillig and the slithy tothes, Did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe."

    eg:
    "And in vain, or rich,
    If the poll giek,
    The block, if it is cast,
    You buried the FLD,
    There have already retainer is in vain,
    Trvnyektl who is protected,
    Here nobody golyall
    And if you break the vdhal --
    The flip-flap terminally, the underworld TVN
    Then rlad szlnak the news, you are filled with cheese."

    I like it.

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  125. Anyhoo, I started to get depressed about my lack of money, here's a "filled with cheese" song that cheered me up.

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  126. Have a good Monday, everyone.

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