469 comments - what an epic UT day, harsh words, misunderstandings, baseless insults, great tunes, new faces, old faces, what more could you need?
"So long as I remain alive and well I shall continue to feel strongly about prose style, to love the surface of the Earth, and to take pleasure in solid objects and scraps of useless information."
If its good enough for Georgey...
England game today, too, I know Duke's ordered himself a Rooney shirt and a couple of St George's flags for the car.
"England is perhaps the only great country whose intellectuals are ashamed of their own nationality. In left-wing circles it is always felt that there is something slightly disgraceful in being an Englishman and that it is a duty to snigger at every English institution, from horse racing to suet puddings. It is a strange fact, but it is unquestionably true that almost any English intellectual would feel more ashamed of standing to attention during God save the King than of stealing from a poor box."
Hey Hermione
ReplyDeleteIt,s about bloody time you came over here.
Big welcome!
If you have a problem with it blame my dear creator.
ReplyDeleteI can't stand it..go away..you're ruining everything...aaarghhh
"you sad, lonely little bedsit-dwelling freak...just go..no one likes your obnoxious schtick"
ReplyDelete"can anyone tell me where the small, social-inadequate meme comes from?"
Perhaps you could enlighten us?
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ReplyDeleteI didn't think I commented on waddya but I seem to be there.
ReplyDeleteusini
ReplyDeletei'm a bit of a fair weather football watcher......but nice goal.....!
sheff i think you commented for someone last week during your booze session........
ReplyDeletei'm getting paranoid with all these italy visitors......don't make it worse!!!!;)
Usini: "Come on it was the USA"
ReplyDeleteSo what if it was? They had some damn good players in their team. The days are long gone when England were expected to beat the USA simply because their priorities were playing American football or Baseball or Basketball.
Anything can happen in a knockout tournament, that's why they are so exciting. The best performing team throughout doesn't always win.
Anyway, we shall see but I'm sticking with my take in that the England team did a good job tonight.
oh..you're a collector.
ReplyDeletecollect this: the term 'parody'..an example
"you sad, lonely little bedsit-dwelling freak...just go..no one likes your obnoxious schtick"...
all aimed at yours truly..hence the question..
"can anyone tell me where the small, social-inadequate meme comes from?"
...my guess was self-projection...was I wrong?
Y'know, often it's not even the petulance that marks you out..it's the vagueness, the stupidity, the lack of an ear for tone and the idea that anyone else buys that image you see in the mirror.
Gandolfo Why for you not like my zia e zio e nonna e nonno e cugini?
ReplyDeleteWell chekhov I think the USA showed everyone how to keep England easy to beat, they shut Rooney right up.
ReplyDeleteIt comes to something when your strikers are Rooney and Heskey and you forget Rooney is playing.
I am sure things will change as the tournament goes on but I really don't think we were much good tonight.
I don't think that was Hermione either.
Melissa
ReplyDeleteyou are very communicative for a ghost - is this a breakthrough for psychic research ?
Hi hermione - don't be shy and don't pull any punches. There's no chance of you being moderated over here.
ReplyDeleteI'm flattered that you've chosen to respond to me. It's quite an honour.
As you know, I despise you and all you stand for, the flippancy, the trivialisation of important issues, the attention seeking, the whole vacuous flamboyancy.
I've said more than once that you typify waddya. That was my first impression of you and I've never wavered.
Worse than that, you've begun to typify the worst of Cif, where everyone shall have an opinion, cheap and stupid as it is, and anyone who points out the stupidity of that opinion gets ganged up on by the friends of hermione.
You have nothing of interest to add to any debate, you never have had. I've never seen you debate with anyone below the line. All you do is post facile one-liners which add nothing of value.
The closure of waddya this weekend is the apotheosis of your reign on Cif. The lunatics started running the asylum, and you all fucked it up.
Who's surprised?
x
"Y'know, often it's not even the petulance that marks you out..it's the vagueness, the stupidity, the lack of an ear for tone and the idea that anyone else buys that image you see in the mirror."
ReplyDeleteScherfig, I do so hope you're listening to this.
I'll bid you all a fond goodnight, but don't forget now: melissadarley is not dead.
Paul/Chekhov/Jennifer
ReplyDeleteApparently Green was so distraught after the match, he threw himself in front of the team bus but the bus slipped under him.
Ah Duke that's cruel. ;)
ReplyDeleteI do feel sorry for him but since he has his money, status and athletic young body to console him I am sure he will get over it.
Jennifera - duke's a wee bitter Jock. He's got Maradona tattooed on his face.
ReplyDelete"Scherfig, I do so hope you're listening to this.
ReplyDeleteI'll bid you all a fond goodnight, but don't forget now: melissadarley is not dead."
I'm listening, but actually melissa is dead. I invented her and Cif killed her. You can use the name, but it really won't work. She's dead and gone, and you're just a pale copy. A wannabe for everything you pretend to despise. Just keep on posting here, and we'll all see how well it works. Good luck!
melissa
ReplyDelete"Scherfig, I do so hope you're listening to this."
NO!!..the Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique..how could you!!!..you dastardly villan ...we're all done for!!!
you friggin lightweight nonentity..click your heels and fuck off back to Kansas
Duke. I would like to inform you that for the first time I saw someone where the infamous 'anyone but England' t shirt. Was this in the poor east end, no it was in the west end, in the Kelvingrove park.
ReplyDeleteI felt like going to this twat and saying INGERLAND INGERLAND INGERLAND, even though I am not really bothered about the world cup- I didn't even watch the game tonight.
Why for you not like my zia e zio e nonna e nonno e cugini?
ReplyDeletecos i don't know them and you're not usini......
What the hell is going on ?
ReplyDeleteIs everyone a double ?
I'm nearly out of booze and this is freaking me out.
I was wondering how long it would take before the CIF gang came over here since their playground was shut down for the weekend.
ReplyDeleteI'm waiting for someone from over there to express their disgust at being treated with such contempt.
Gandolfo sorry about that. I was trying to make a joke about all the Italian watchers on the thread.
ReplyDeletechekhov + Jenni
ReplyDeleteHad they been better or cleverer they would have tried a mirror image reverse type of post - pale shadows they are from beyond the Styx.
"Prick, prick, prick.
ReplyDeleteGoodnight."
You're not melissadarley..you're Dorothy Parker
Hank,
ReplyDeleteactually the Maradona tattoo is on my left hand, in honour of 1986 ;)
I thought you would have appreciated that old Greavsie joke about Scottish goalkeepers (I think it was about Stewart Kennedy after his shocker against England in 1975) being transposed onto England's comedy custodians.
Jen.
ReplyDeleteScherfig is based in Denmark, yes.
Mellisa has posted a minute a go, I saw no Denmark flag.
So although the Melissa on Cif was him- this one is not. It is very easy to copy anyones profile image and re-use it.
I could very easily set up a blogger account as Giyus....
Posed the cynic.
@Jen
ReplyDeleteI think Montana should e-mail newbies a guide
on what,s what and who,s who here.
@chekhov
I suspect a few of the extra lurkers are from
the Guardian itself.And one of the extra
Italian lurkers could well be Polly herself.
Evening Duke
ReplyDeleteI'm not that fussed, Duke. It just wasn't very funny.
ReplyDeleteHow are you anyway, you mad wee Jock?!
Evening Paul,
ReplyDeleteI replied to your post on UT2.
Do it Nap it might be fun. ;)
ReplyDeletesorry paul....^^
ReplyDeleteHank,
ReplyDeleteI'm tickety boo Sir, good to see you fighting fit.
In all seriousness where do you see England getting to? Only a fool would write off the team after the first game. I don't think any team that's gone on to win the world cup has ever had a good start.
I think I need to take up drinking.
ReplyDeleteThings might make more sense.
And Duke, I hate to disappoint you, but I almost never support American athletes or teams in international competition. Just weird that way.
@Paul:
Not meaning to go all Edwin on you, but baseball never ends in a draw. They play 'til there's a winner -- no matter how long that takes.
Can't be Polly she was writing about how she had had her first open air swim of the summer in a London lido.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if it is open to the public?
And how much trouble I would get into if I went in and threw ciabatta at her while she was swimming.
Breaking news - Rob Green didn't let a soft goal in after all! ITV HD didn't even show it - they were showing a car ad instead. FIFA have now decided to annul the goal on the grounds that loads of people in the UK weren't able to see it live, and England have been awarded the three points. The USA are expected to appeal FIFA's decision if they can find anyone in the States who was actually watching the game.
ReplyDeleteEngland have got a very lucky draw, duke. I think we'll top the group, beat Serbia in the 2nd round and France in the QF before meeting Brazil in the semi, at which point all bets are off.
ReplyDeleteI don't think this is one of the best England sides ever, but I rate Capello, and I don't think there's an outstanding team in the tournament other than Spain. And if Torres doesn't get fit, and Villa doesn't fire, and if Iniesta suffers from the 3 months he's been out injured.....
England have a chance.
I think Montana should e-mail newbies a guide
ReplyDeleteon what,s what and who,s who here.
I don't have a clue anymore, to be honest.
I always thought MelissaDarley was MillyTante, reborn.
"And how much trouble I would get into if I went in and threw ciabatta at her while she was swimming."
ReplyDelete"Cast thy bread upon the waters: for thou shalt find it after many days."
The USA are expected to appeal FIFA's decision if they can find anyone in the States who was actually watching the game.
ReplyDeleteI was watching, but I wouldn't swear to that for USSoccer.
@scherf - ha ha. Very funny. Even if the goal stands, Ireland will not be united. Get over it, sweetheart.
ReplyDeleteFucking amazes me how many chippy paddies haven't yet grasped that Manchester United are actually based in England.
jen
ReplyDeleteshe had a swim (for free)at brixton lido then got her ryanair (paid extra to board before the plebs) to pisa...now she chattering by her pool at her tuscan villa away from the "great unwashed" sipping a cheap bottle of chianti in order not to appear frivolous in such times of hardship......
I don't know what I was more disappointed about finding out about Fabio today.
ReplyDeleteIs it that he is a staunch Catholic who prays twice a day or that he chose to manage England so that he could be close to the Galleries in London that show his beloved modern art?
Hank,
ReplyDeleteI think so as well. Of course the myopic, sensationalist press will be circling like sharks at the moment, tasting blood after tonight.
Two wins against Slovenia and Algeria and then you will probably face France. And let's face it, the best thing about the French team at the moment is the playing of la Marseillaise before they play.
The Dutch are quietly confident here until you say the word 'defence'. I expect them to blaze a trail first round before petering out against a side that works out how to nullify Robben, van Persie and Sneijder.
Hello Hank: did you get my message this morning?
ReplyDeleteI'm not suggesting you should agree with me but I prefer to aspire to the utmost clarity on sensitive topics, otherwise the whole debate dissolves into "Chinese Whispers".
Yea Gods 1160+ visitors to UT today - dont recall a better days tally ,...............
ReplyDeletegandolfo but according to her article she doesn't earn over £150,000 a year so we should be kind to her.
ReplyDeleteShe could afford to pay more tax apparently.
And if anyone hasn't looked,check out Atomboy's last two posts on his CiF moderation site. Crackers.
ReplyDeleteScherf, I should say I can't believe MD's account got zapped despite only having one or two previous posts deleted, but why am I not surprised?
Hank I don't think that was Hermione, too wordy for her.
ReplyDeleteManchester United are actually based in England
ReplyDeleteNo way, Hank. We're fucking global. Our 'base' is in our hearts. We are everywhere and nowhere. We are legion..............zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
(Copyright gegenbeispiel). Wonder when he's gonna turn up here? Can't wait.
btw, England will go through, but are nowhere near good enough to win the cup. I fancy Brazil or Holland.
Hi Hank
ReplyDeleteI assume you are the real Hank?
I,m not sure that was Hermione - the original that is.
Yoop, Duke, thje Duitch have a chance. But...
ReplyDeletechekhov - yeh I saw it. Not sure your latest missive is consistent with your morning message. Not sure, tbh, what you believe in or what you want to argue about.
Biggest travesty of the World Cup for me, so far is a slideshow on the MSN "Today" page of the "guy candy" of the World Cup. No Fernando Torres. Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, but no Fernando Torres.
ReplyDeleteWhoever the hell put that list together was not a heterosexual woman.
Ewww Ronaldo is really weird looking.
ReplyDeleteOMG Do we have a MONTH of this?
ReplyDelete*Goes off to find a footy free zone*
jen
ReplyDeletehe's going to have to pray a darn sight more after tonight;0)
virtually all italians say they pray...I suspect they don't......
Leni -
ReplyDeletehi, yeh, it's me. The one true Hank (-;
and yes, you and jen, that was almost certainly hermione. Bland, shallow and gutless.
Agreed, scherf, england don't look good enough, but Holland have problems, and Spain have got a tough run. Brazil, yeh, ok. But Italy's 2006 side was pretty limited.
gandolfo
ReplyDeleteI was raised Catholic and I actually prayed really hard once for a bike, I never got it and that was the end of my religous phase.
"OMG do we have a MONTH of this?"
ReplyDeleteTwo weeks, tops, anne. And then two weeks where we get to lynch the scapegoats.
Montana
ReplyDeleteI,ve heard that Mavis and Melissa put that
list together.Apparently their plugs don,t
connect with the right slots these days.
@Evening Anne/Leni
Anne
ReplyDeleteI agree - too much football.
I appreciate it is important to millions of people so I suppose once every few years we have to let them all play. We'll get no sense from them till it's over. Good time to slip in a nasty budget.
Montana,
ReplyDeleteThey have Lionel Messi as 'guy candy'?! He still looks like the 11 year old kid that ironically always got picked last at football.
My better half has never gotten over Paolo Maldini retiring.
I'm hitting the hay, so I leave you with a favourite of my better half's. As a proud Blackburn, Lancashire lass she is always fond of saying:
The North will rise again
Night all.
Hank, I've not seen that much of Brazil yet, but their defence is very solid (for once), they've got Kaka in midfield, and Robinho could score a bucketload of goals. I've already written Argentina off, but Holland might do something. Duke, what's the real deal on the Netherlands? Any chance?
ReplyDeleteHank: why do you automatically think that anyone who responds to your posts wants to argue with you? I actually agree with a lot of what you have to say!
ReplyDeleteWell, I don't know who put the list together, but no straight woman with half a brain finds Cristiano Ronaldo attractive. And Lionel Messi? Odd.
ReplyDeleteJenni
ReplyDeletewhen my son was 3 he really wanted a toy fort- with knights etc. We went to St. Helen's well where he wished - outloud - for a toy fort. There were no houses nearby and I saw nobody in the vicinity. On our return from our walk there on top of the well was a toy fort complete with model knights.
Someone , I assume, had overheard us. It was very weird . Tim insisted on carrying it home, convinced his wish had been granted.
jen
ReplyDeletepolly kind....naw....I saw her on BBC world the other day for about 10 seconds talking about badly dressed people picking up their benefits at the post office...she said that really they should make more effort if they really wanted a job........
leni
ReplyDeletethat's not fair I prayed for a villa in tuscany and polly got it.....
Please feel free to stifle and suppress yawns or poke a pointy finger at this post - or just rush past it in embarrassed silence, pretending to look elsewhere - but why did the luvvies of the Matt Seaton Gang, with JessicaReed prodded to the front, decide to deprive all the poor little children of their creche for the weekend?
ReplyDeleteI noticed a couple of posts here saying that things were getting a bit shirty over there but by the time I could be bothered to look, it was just the usual forlorn little wasteland of deleted posts made by unknown hands and the cluttered, inchoate gibberings of the usual suspects, verbally masturbating each other.
Did someone's treasured immigrant cleaner get deported, first helping herself to a small handful of cash from a carelessly tossed Gucci bag?
Is the moderation team booked on a school trip for the weekend?
It must be something serious. After all, the WADDYA stalwarts are like the bloated, sagging drunks who lean against the bar, slurring their words and mopping up the spillages with their sleeves: they are the characters who cannot be offended for fear of losing their acolytes and imitators, their gophers and co-conspirators.
Or is it just that the CiF management team think that those who are addicted to saying anything, absolutely anything, blurting out whatever sticky drivel enters the emptiness of their minds, as long as they are making a noise and think they are being noticed and groomed for blue-sticker stardom are just a bunch of dispensable, annoying shits, like everyone else?
Or did Jessica send them each personal emails, with one of those little yellow creatures winking and sticking out its tongue to show that they were all having a lark together?
Who knows? Who really cares?
Wybourne
Thanks. More of a task and a duty than a pleasure.
Still, nice to see everyone.
gandolfo
ReplyDeleteYou made the wish to the wrong saint - or you just ain't good enough , not saint material.
Leni that is so sweet.
ReplyDeleteOh I didn't really mean she was kind gandolfo, don't forget I am a bit drunk. ;)
But yes she has a point, I always dress the same for the post office as I do for an interview, what a stupid person she is.
gandolfo
ReplyDeleteSorry mate.That was Bru talking about the need
for the mentally ill to keep up appearances
when they get sectioned.She apparently also believes that hair extensions are just as effective as ECT.
"Well, I don't know who put the list together, but no straight woman with half a brain finds Cristiano Ronaldo attractive."
ReplyDeletethat's cruel..you've just wished a heavily sedated weekend, chained to the bidet in a luxury Brussels apartment on the poor fella
@ chekhov - given my infallibility, I naturally assume that anyone who responds to me is seeking to agree with me. And why not?
ReplyDeleteYou claim that you agree with a lot of what I say. So who knows why you're so keen on having an argument with me. Turns out you're a carpenter, so it's no wonder you're chippy.
Anyhoo, chekhov - if you want a row, let me know what it is you want to row about.
They have Lionel Messi as 'guy candy'?! He still looks like the 11 year old kid that ironically always got picked last at football.
ReplyDeleteWell, yeah. And not even an 11 year old who looks like he could grow up to be good-looking some day.
And Maldini's too "pretty".
Ugh! Paul
ReplyDeleteI have had a total recall of a picture of early perms - as in hair curling - women with electric something attatched to their heads.
ECT = hair extensions. Sick minds only connect the 2.
atomboy
ReplyDelete"being noticed and groomed for blue-sticker stardom"
To be honest I don't really want my blue sticker. If I carry on making stupid comments with my big blue C then I will bring Cif into disrepute. So much so I haven't commented on anything all day.
paul
ReplyDeletemaybe polly read her post and adapted it to the unemployed... but that's what she said...
leni
that's where I went wrong: wrong saint and not saintly enough.......nlimey lots to do this summer at least the vatican's round the corner!!!
"i will try harder, i will try harder"....also I got my "special" place in heaven i am catholic by baptism ;)
Well that's Hermione seen off. Anyone else from CIF want to take a pop?
ReplyDeleteNo moderators on here mind; no prefects to cover your arse.
Pit your wits at the "coalface"; no prisoners taken on this site.
gandolfo
ReplyDeletethere must a saint who grants requests for excessive riches - a well kept secret I assume. We plebs only get access to Jude and Francis - lost causes and the poor are always with us stuff.
that's cruel..you've just wished a heavily sedated weekend, chained to the bidet in a luxury Brussels apartment on the poor fella
ReplyDeleteI don't think he's worried about women finding him attractive.
Don't say that gandolfo I really don't want to end up in purgatory just because I was baptised etc
ReplyDeleteThe idea of that place gave me the heebie jeebies for years.
Limbo really used to freak me out.
I love Terry Pratchetts description of limbo it always makes me laugh which scares the bad vibes away.
I spent a bit of my early childhood counting how many people would pray for me to get out of purgatory if I ended up there before I realised it was all nasty lies.
gandolfo
ReplyDeleteThe curse of catholicism.I know it well.It,s
the religion you can spend a lifetime recovering
from.Even without realizing it.
@Napoleon-when you go on holiday me and Leni
are going to share that C of yours.Will return
in pristine condition.(OK we,ll apply a bit
of spit and polish)
Paul
ReplyDeletedo you really want a C ?
It could stand for lots of things other than contributor. Anyway - don't we all contribute simply by posting ?
Napoleon K.
ReplyDeleteIt was not aimed at you.
I have always looked at the blue sticker as similar to a teacher of infants promising gold stars and making fidgety children into milk-monitors.
It is the alacrity and obsequiousness with which it is taken up which is embarrassing.
It is not as if there is any seriousness on CiF's part to help foster a regular spot for anyone who shows ability.
Compare this with whoever was the vacuous girl who wrote 600 words of coagulated snot, which was rightly ridiculed by all, only for Georgina Henry to say: "Just imagine where she could have gone with that kind of talent, if only you hadn't all been so shitty to her."
It is all just the rich man in his castle, the poor man at his gate and Jessica Reed dressing up in flowing mediaeval costume and coming down to play Lady Bountiful to the peasants.
The biggest travesty of the world cup is peeople taking it too seriously. Listenting to the calls on Five Live tonight you realise how many people there are out there with brains roughly yhe size of the average bi-valve, who have bought the marketing and journalism based approach that this campaign (like all the others) is some kind of fucking crusade.
ReplyDeleteIt's a string of football matches ffs. No one said the US would be a walk over, and the keeper made one freak mistake. Move on. lighten up.
They should ban those fucking horns though.
leni
ReplyDeleteok given that it's no doubt top secret I'll go for Lakshmi the Hindu godess of wealth, prosperity, light, wisdom, fortune, fertility, generosity and courage and the "embodiment" of beauty, grace and charm
seems to cover just about everything....just a few pujas should do it!!!! ;)
Jenni
ReplyDeleteCan you still buy time off in Purgatory ? With straitened times threatening sounds like an on-line business idea - Indulgences for the gullible.
Leni
ReplyDeleteWas jesting.I,m quite happy being part of the
minority without a C.Remember to put that into
your book.What it was really like posting with
a bunch of C,s.
gandolfo
ReplyDeletei have a hindu friend so consumed by guilt for a wasted youth he's all puja'd out.
His crimes - insobriety and mild flirtations. Religion is a terrible burden.
Hank: why would I want a row with you? I'm on your side, I agree with you; or do you just like rowing for the sake of it?
ReplyDeleteDo you dismiss people who agree with what you say as "sucking up" to you?
Well, if you want a row, let's have one about that ridiculous notion!
chekhov
ReplyDeleteHank enjoys a verbal terpsichore .
Compare this with whoever was the vacuous girl who wrote 600 words of coagulated snot, which was rightly ridiculed by all, only for Georgina Henry to say: "Just imagine where she could have gone with that kind of talent, if only you hadn't all been so shitty to her."
ReplyDeleteWho was that? I must've missed that one.
jen paul
ReplyDeletethankfully after having 3 children in three years my mother became a feminist and left the catholic church through desperation not to have anymore and have control over her fertility rather than being told she morally couldn't use contraception!!!! so I haven't been tarnished...
atomboy.
ReplyDeleteI still disagree with the blue sticker, it goes agianst the egalitarian spirit of Cif.
With that I am off to bed.
Montana I think that might be the girl who decided she wouldn't vote because her piercings might be sneered at by the people passing out the voting papers.
ReplyDeleteThat really was a shockingly bad article.
leni
ReplyDeletei am being flippant........i don't underestimate the "power" of organised religions and how they can f@ck people up....and bleed them dry financially and emotionally.......
Has any btler granted the big C ever been given more than 2 gigs ATL ?
ReplyDeleteIt seems like a silly ploy to me - the Cs are proliferating like gnats in a damp summer.
Oh. I remember the article. I don't remember Georgina rushing to her defence. FFS, if GH thought that was well-written, it's small wonder Cif is going down the toilet.
ReplyDeleteLeni: I'm all for a bit of verbal terpsichore!
ReplyDeletegandolfo
ReplyDeleteI recognised the flippancy - religion needs more of it.
Leni:
ReplyDeleteIt's my understanding that AllyF and Cath Elliott both started out as BTLers (would've been before my time). I've done 2 and was supposed to do a 3rd but I hadn't submitted it yet when my father died. Haven't yet e-mailed Jessica to find out if she still wants it.
I never got any religion at home, I got all my fear from my shitty catholic primary and junior school which is why I am so against faith schools.
ReplyDeleteMontana/Jen
ReplyDeleteWas it that bird who looks like a 14 year old
with attitude?
chekhov
ReplyDeleteyes of course - but set to a toccata rather than a monotone methinks.
Montana
ReplyDeleteLook forward to your next offering. I was wondering if aspiring writers can get a genuine career leg up through Cif ?
Oh Paul you mean Laurie Penny, nobody came forward to defend her because even Cif editors have their pride. ;)
ReplyDeleteMontana
ReplyDeleteI have to say that I honestly cannot remember, for the simple reason that I refuse to clutter up my brain with rubbish.
However, it could have been the girl with the lingering stench of nappies, who vehemently declared that she was too thick and uninterested to vote, unless a politician personally visited and itemised what particular benefits would accrue to her alone if she did so.
Or it could have been the other one, who still posts with almost visible quivers and trembles in the hope that she will again be chosen to go up onto the stage above the line, who once wrote some rubbish about rappers and her smart-arsed, idiotic, three-word questions in contrived interviews.
They could be the same person for all I know.
It isn't as if CiF parades any talent which does not conform to the same grey slurry of those already there and those who choose which achingly outstretched and pointing aloft hand to pick.
Paul
ReplyDeletemy parrot is bird with attitude. Doesn't have body piercings tho.
why are we all talking rubbish tonight? Must be catching - w've been waddyad.
It isn't as if CiF parades any talent which does not conform to the same grey slurry of those already there and those who choose which achingly outstretched and pointing aloft hand to pick.
ReplyDeleteGee, thanks, AB.
Leni: I was thinking iambic pentameter but what would I know?
ReplyDeleteMontana
ReplyDeleteDid you ever hear back from Emily - after all our thoughts on her assignment/study whatever it would be good to know if we were helpful or otherwise.
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ReplyDeletechekhov
ReplyDeleteGood thinking - before any duel starts weapons must be chosen.
Choose your form and stick to it - departures from chosen rhyming scheme etc will lose points.
I like it. Should enhance the quality of rows.
Leni
ReplyDelete''why are we all talking rubbish tonight? Must be catching - w've been waddyad.''
I put it down to all the xtra eyes on us.
The thought of Polly glaring at us in her
dressing gown whilst sipping a chianti
has also inhibited me from being myself
tonight.
Montana
ReplyDeleteSorry. I seem to be hitting too many innocents with this blunderbuss, but it is late and I am tired, so I will apologise and try to take better aim in future.
The person could have been Sian Anderson and Gerogina Henry may have made a defence of her abilities here but Pluck is playing its usual trick of hiding most of the comments.
Whoever and wherever it was, Henry tried to defend an apparently talentless child, who should never have been given the scope and audience to be publicly humiliated in such a way.
Henry probably felt guilty to witness that luvvieness can actually produce bad outcomes.
Leni - "why are we all talking rubbish tonight?"
ReplyDeleteI dunno what a toccata amounts to, and I'm sorry if you think I'm monotonous.
I like to think I'm consistent.
Anyway, fuck it. HenryTheThird just posted a doozie on Barbara Ellen's thread.
Atomboy
ReplyDeletei remember G defending a girl - can't remember girl's name. Something about voting i think.
you're right - the girl should not have been exposed to public ridicule in that way.
It is risky accepting the C - remember MaM's pathetic contribution?
Now Scorpio
ReplyDeletepull your sting in. I didn't say *you* were monotonous did I ?
x
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ReplyDeleteLeni
ReplyDeleteIt is also a bit like the pretty girl in a film pretending to like the class nerd or whatever.
The nerd jumps through hoops and the girl and everyone else is just laughing.
In the film, it may lead to a happy ending, depending on the mood of Hollywood.
On CiF, I simply do not see good intentions on their part. It is a ruse and a sham.
At which point, I had better get some sleep.
Hank
ReplyDeleteI have responded to Henry3.
identity politics are designed to divide.
israel is an example of identity politics gone mad.
ReplyDeleteSeperate UO towns, Arab towns and villages. Interesting to watch how this will play into - or not - the development of Israel as a cohesive country - particularly if some of these communities underproduce in terms of tax revenues and so become dependent on everyone else for infrastructure, health , education and other services.
Monkeyfish and HankScorpio are top notch at writing polemics. However I'm not convinced that polemics will achieve what they are supposed to achieve.
ReplyDeleteHope that makes sense.
Back from the party, the better half's asleep, me fairly drunk, so here's my analysis of the match this evening.
ReplyDeleteJESUS FUCKING CHRIST!
England? Call that football? Fuck knows, after 44 years of watching you piss it up the wall, I have low expectations, but fuck!
Green, why did you stop crawling after that slow ball that was gently passed to you by the Yanks as it snailed its way into your goal? Why didn't you just keep on crawling to the fucking horizon and beyond? My grandniece is a better goalie than you and she's seven and doesn't actually fucking play football!
And Heskey? What were you on the pitch for? Was it a drunken bet on Capello's part? Fuck knows. Crouch might actually have done something if he'd been brought on when you turned out to be a waste of space, i.e. after five minutes.
And England. Let me let you into a secret. You have a genius centre forward, one of the best in the world. Name of Rooney. So if you passed him the ball from time to time, it might actually help score some fucking goals!
Timmie Howard, we can see you trained at MU. Brilliant match. Seeing as you have Tourette's, I just wish I'd heard what you were saying when you took those studs in the gut.
Well, it's been forty-four years, so I'll give England another chance against Algeria before I give up and support the only team I've seen so far actually playing fucking football. Yes, South Korea, I mean you.
Thank you. I feel better now. I think I'll go and lie down.
hello Spike
ReplyDeleteYou weren't impressed then?
Hi Leni.
ReplyDeleteWe English should have invented country music. What could be more depressing than being an England supporter on such a night?
chekhov
ReplyDeleteI.m not sure that anybody knows the way forward - isn't that the big question - what to do and how to do it/
that capitalism is Oroborus like eating its own tail is obvious. How long the self consuming process will take is uncertain.
Managed change will be slow, will be resisted and times will be hard. Revolution will be resisted and with no alternative ready to replace current system chaos will ensue and - times will be hard.
There is nothing wrong with describing someone
ReplyDeleteby their gender or ethnicity provided the
intention behind it is neither sexist nor
racist.However in the PC world we live in
femaleness too often is equated with moral
superiority.And references to ethnicity are
sadly too often equated with the need to be
seen to be all-inclusive.Hence there are those
in this PC world of ours who genuinely believe
that the election of Diane Abbott to Labour
Leader will be some sort of great leap forward
-for all the wrong reasons.And Abbott it seems
is happy to go along with that and even may
encourage it.Additionally misguided White
Oxbridge types at the Guardian big that Black
female journalist- whose name i can,t remeber-
up to being something she clearly isn,t.
Anyway, have you lot had a pleasant evening? I was going to read the thread, then saw it was 300+ commnents and decided discretion was the better part of valour.
ReplyDeleteLeni
ReplyDeleteI'm becoming increasingly convinced that the only solution is a broad alliance, Izquierda Unida style. The time for factionalism and infighting is past. We have to find general areas of agreement and act on that basis, internationally too. Neoliberal capitalism is international, we can't fight it on a national basis.
But it's not going to be easy.
The Black female journalist at the Guardian i
ReplyDeletewas referring to is the one people were
talking about earlier.The one whose name
no-one can remember but who was crap.For
some reason i managed to delete my earlier
post about it.Dunno why other than it,s late
and i,m knackered.
Nite all.
Leni: "Oroborus", that's a new word for me that I don't understand. Could you enlighten me?
ReplyDeleteSpike
ReplyDeletei have been saying for a long time we need to rethink our position. Capitalism hs many deep and firmly planted roots and offshoots.
Only by uniting can we begin to challenge it. People fail to understand that the poor, subsistent farmers of Africa are victimsof the system which victimises the poor here and everywhere. It wears many disguises - some of which wear a smiling face.
A long struggle lies ahead - we need clarity of thought first. We have to be clear just what exactly it is we are fighting.
chekhov
ReplyDeleteOroborus (ouroborus) is an ancient symbol- a snake eating its own tail thereby forming a circle.
It represents the cyclical nature of things - this can lead to renewal or to the end of a cycle.
he Alchemists used it as a symbol of their task.
Leni: thanks, I didn't know about that!
ReplyDeleteLola Adesoiye, Paul?
ReplyDeleteLeni -- no. I never heard anything more from her than what she posted on UT2.
And Atomboy: I wasn't actually offended. Just teasing you.
Paul
ReplyDeleteit is a given that feminine=superior!
"it's a given that feminine = superior!" = pplleurgh!!!!)-:]]
ReplyDeleteStop trolling, leni.
montana
ReplyDeletei have read the thread on Iowa and agree - as far as I can tell - that allowing a doctor to prescribe over 'tnet increases availibilty to the pill.
gandolfo mentioned the power of the Vatican over contraceptives in Italy. Religious interference in these matters is a common enough thing.
I can never understand why religion thinks it has the monopoly on ethics.
The article was confused and confusing and I felt it trivialised the issue.
oh ffs Hank everyone's "judgement" is all over the place including yours and mine for that matter. You write eloquent prose and rightly stand your ground but, be honest with yourself, you "judge" people on this site according to your own prejudices don't you?
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ReplyDeleteHere's Bruce. Bruce kicks ass. Even when he's romancing his bird.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpVduSOxvLg&feature=player_embedded#!
Morning Bitterweed!
ReplyDeleteWas any beer involved?
@chekhov - yes, of course I do. I stand my ground because I think my judgement is generally sound.
ReplyDeleteYes.
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