23 August 2009
Daily Chat 23/08/09
William Wallace was executed in 1305. Calvinists were granted rights in the Netherlands in 1555. Italian immigrants Nicola Sacco and Bartolomeo Vanzetti were executed in Boston in 1927 after what is now considered one of the most controversial trials in American history. And in 1989, two million people from Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia stood alon the Vilnius-Tallinn road singing and holding hands. Not a single vaguely interesting famous person (to me, at least) is celebrating a birthday today. Maggie, Rick and Tami are celebrating birthdays today, but you don't know them. Keith Moon would be celebrating a birthday today if he hadn't died. And it's Flag Day in Ukraine. It feels funny not to type 'the' in front of Ukraine, but I don't think we're supposed to anymore. The picture is of Theddingworth, Leicestershire. It's got nothing to do with today's events, but it's more pleasant than any of the pictures I could find that did have something to do with today's events.
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Curious how the use of flags has evolved along the times. I remember when it was a crime of "lèse majesté", punished with death, anything untoward done to a country's flag. Even wars were won if the enemy's flag fell or was taken.
ReplyDeletePerhaps so much insistence about flags has led to the present, in many cases, ignorance of their significance, or shall I say immigration has had a hand in it?
Whichever, it's true that flags have become little less than a symbol.
I don't know you Maggie, Rick or Tami but have a happy birthday anyway.
ReplyDeleteIf it is as much fun as mine often are you will have great day - and that's a fact.
Jose - who knows perhaps one day we shall all meet under a red flag. I hope so.
Welcome Princesschipchops - this is fun place to post I'm sure you'll have as much joy as the rest of us who hang out here.
ReplyDeleteYou know Montana. Annetan42 is senior lady around here and it was her birthday a couple days ago. You don't need to know anything else - enjoy.
I had the misfortune of coming across a country pub that was still open as I went in search of food for my dogs at this 12.12am I am thus not altogether together this Sunday am.
Best W.
Annetan - I enjoyed your post on Hatt's article yesterday. It cheered me it was good. Sad that your author friend died young.
ReplyDeletedeano.
Belated welcome to PrincessChipChops. Glad to see you’ve got your mojo working.
ReplyDeleteI first heard of Sacco and Vanzetti when I saw the film of their story (I’m guessing now) on TV as part of a season of Morricone soundtracks. I remembered that it was directed by Sergio Leone, but in fact the director was Giuliano Montaldo.
Here’s a trailer
And here’s a link to a clip of a more recent documentary
Keith Moon may not be around anymore, but we can still celebrate his birthday.
My Generation
Happy Birthday Maggie, Rick and Tami!
ReplyDeleteLike the pic of Theddingworth Montana. Am a grumpy old Scot but there is something about English villages that is so appealling.
Wallace's execution: Braveheart has among its many fantasies Robert the Bruce in the audience grieving over Wallace's execution. What is true is that 15 later, Bruce meted out exactly the same punishment to four supporters of the Balliol line - the line that Wallace fought to preserve.
erm '15 years later- ' sorry
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ReplyDeletePotatoes?
It's the beer Edwin.
ReplyDeleteThat's what makes English villages pleasant
We don't speak of our ale in terms of /- (shillings worth) like you Scots.
We speak of the hoppyness and whether or not it tastes as good on the way back up as it did it the way down.At least we do in the North of the land.
Malt is the delight of Scotland but I find the beers too sweet. But the fired-water deserves it's World reputation. Just thinking about some of those I have enjoyed is making me giddy.
Happy birthday to you - a couple of days late.
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ReplyDeleteAnyone planning to follow the cricket but doing other stuff first on the basis that the first hour wouldn’t be that interesting might want to get on the case pretty quick...
ReplyDeleteI had seen you request Stoaty my friend and was just about to get down to a reply when I saw your reminder.
ReplyDeleteBut...
Must take the dogs for a walk now I have - finally found them the food I set out for last midnight and - fed them.
I will get back to you soon.
deano.
Lest you be confused Stoaty - I did pick Hops in Kent for several years running as a young man.
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Northern Brewer is the finest Hop known to man - it finds it's way into Guinness inter alia
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Anon,
ReplyDeleteThem were the days eh? running as a young man. Like me, you probably totter like an old one now.
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ReplyDeleteAnybody see that piece complaining about the meercat's east European accent?
ReplyDeleteStoaty
ReplyDeleteMy friend - I really must get me dogs for a walk.
Last nights chance encounter on a pub still open after midnight was so severe that I have had to drink the best part of a botrtle of red to make sense of my surrounds.
I think I'm not that far from passing to deep sleep.
The secret of potatoes is in the nitrogen/potassimum ratio.
Tats given too much nitro grow leaf at the expense of tuber - they need potash.
I was glad to see you around here again.
Oh feg me I am wqalking dreunk. I just cannot be arsaed to sort out me bad` spell..s any more.
Tis at this point I wish I could find the chip in my machine and throw it in the field
Best W
Deano.
Hello Deano et al and thanks for the welcome. Deano I would say it was incredible fortune to find an open pub whilst looking for dog food in the early hours.
ReplyDeleteI saw the piece re the Meercat - didn't comment though. I mean everyone loves meercat's right? Personally I always thought they would speak with a strong Italian accent. In fact wasnt there an ad years ago with meercats with Newcastle accents talking about dancing? Cant believe that wasnt banned either.
Ps Growmore is too nitro rich.
ReplyDeleteI'll get back when I is more4 sober
deano,
ReplyDeleteKnow how you feel mate, I found an open bottle of whiskey in the cupboard and am feeling a bit frail myself.
PCC,
ReplyDeleteYes you madam, The meercat ad is the best for ages, I am told that he is named after a Russian defector from the thirties.
colin: that thread is a classic, isn’t it?
ReplyDeleteI haven’t bothered to comment, because there’s really nothing I could say that hasn’t already been said.
It’s hotly tipped to win the Cif Worst Article of the Year Award, apparently.
Deano: interesting to read what you say about the Nitro/Potash balance for potatoes. Normally I just dig in plenty of manure, but maybe next year I’ll try experimenting with your suggestion.
Any advice for leeks or chard, anyone? I’m off to plant mine out later...
andy,
ReplyDeleteI find it interesting that on some threads the mods actually sit in to protect the writer but this pillock was just thrown to the wolves.
hi Princesscc - welcome to the asylum.
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ReplyDeleteI am already in luv wi you. You abuse the languge so beutifully - you is plainly educated.
As the day passeth I shall be more ill.
But - the day after I shall vey much enjoy your civil company.
ps Stoaty is a wanker but a very civilkised one.
d
Hi Sheffpixie,
ReplyDeleteI am off to walk my dogs now but all this talk of booze has made me want a pint.
The Meercat article was mind boggling it has to be said. I will read the thread later - might be good sport.
Sheff
ReplyDeleteNote I is a bloke of distinction - I did not offer the comelately tart a place in the boat.
I adore you.
d.
colin: you’re right, and I hadn’t particularly thought of that.
ReplyDeleteThe author is a debutant; wonder if he’ll want to come back after his reception.
The mods have also been pretty hands off on the MacShane thread too. The comment I flagged up yesterday morning, suggesting it would soon be gone, is still there.
Maybe they’re all engrossed in the cricket.
Anon,
ReplyDeleteHow dare you!
PCC,
ReplyDeleteYes welcome, this site can do with a bit of class. There are some rough old birds on here.
Andy - where the feg are you getting 'manure' from in N london?
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stoaty
ReplyDeleteThere are some rough old birds on here.
Oh stoaty, don't give me away - how did you know?
Sheff,
ReplyDeleteJust a guess, based on geography really. (smiley face)
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ReplyDeletedeano,
ReplyDeleteYou is welcome you hilliterate bum. I seen Corrie and know what they are like up there.
Stoaty - a little less of the old if you please! I mean I'm not 70 yet! ;)
ReplyDeleteThat Meerkat thread is amazing I love Alexander the ad is so silly! It makes such a pleasant change from 'because you're worth it' (euccccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhh).
BTW Have you seen the website?
Thanks for that anne, brilliant.
ReplyDelete70 is the new 40 btw.
I shall be driving through Kent on my way to France next Sunday stoaty - so watch your irrascible old back...
ReplyDeleteSheff,
ReplyDeleteSurprised to see you pet, I thought by this time you would be passed out under a bush. (many smiley faces!)
Sheff - bring me back some of that clever blu cheese. I will meet you in central Sheffield and give you twice or thrice its price.
ReplyDeleteI don't tell fibs.
deano
She aint going to fall for that one squire.
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ReplyDeleteWhat a pair you are
ReplyDeleteStoaty...still sober although probably won't be later. Have been listening to the cricket - am getting a bit worried now.
Deano...will see what I can do about the cheese..
deano,
ReplyDeleteYou stand no chance cully. I has a spiderman suit with a modified gusset. Freakin' irrisistable dude.
Err Mr. Stoat. Much as I love being called a classy bird and much as I hate to disabuse you of your notion of my being one... I was born in Barnsley and now reside in Sheffield. Now I think Barnsley is very classy but not many agree.
ReplyDeleteOn the bright side though I do know a song about flat caps, bailiffs and coal cellars the chorus of which is: 'You cant put your muck in our dustbin, our dustbin, our dustbin (repeat ad nauseum) 'cause our dustbins full!'
pcc,
ReplyDeleteYou can't fool me, 'reside' is a very classy word.
Hope you enjoy the site but try to avoid deano, he's a wrong un.
Princesscc
ReplyDeleteBoth MsC and I also live in Sheffield. I should warn you both stoaty and deano are world class flirts.
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ReplyDeleteNo chance pops, you is a scruff.
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ReplyDeleteIt (scruff) gives a purpose to life for many ladies.
ReplyDeletedeano,
ReplyDeleteI am able to feign interest in what they are saying, bet you can't do that, scruffbag.
There is nothing finer for a lady to find in her pants than a disheveled gentle man.
ReplyDeleteOh shit - forgot me promise not be anon. Anon+anon2 = d
ReplyDeletedeano,
ReplyDeleteYou is a oaf sir. One can only suppose that 'slippin her a feel' is what constitutes courtship for one such as yourself.
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ReplyDeletedeano,
ReplyDeleteVery ancient slang think: mush, squire, pal,dude, buddy etc. Slightly perjorative but not very.
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ReplyDelete'cully' features occasionally in the Patrick O'Brian novels and (I think) in the Flashman series as well.
ReplyDeleteHave always assumed it means what Colin says - a 19th-century version of 'a bit of a lad'.
Sheffpixie - I see what you mean about Deano and Mr. Stoat they is naughy lads they is - and one of em knows his the's and tha's.
ReplyDeleteDon't know who MsC is, I probably do but wine has addled me, can you remind me...sorry.
What area of the 'greenest city in England' are you from?
Princesscc
ReplyDeleteI'm in Burngreave. where you?
sheff,
ReplyDeleteHow interesting.
Edwin,
ReplyDeleteFine works, those.
Sheffpixie
ReplyDeleteI am in Walkley. Hillsborough way.
The mods have started working through the Meercat thread. Pathetic bastards.
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