Born today: William Penn (1644-1718), Eamon de Valera (1882-1975), e.e. cummings (1894-1962), Hannah Arendt (1906-1975), Roger Moore (1927), Cliff Richard (1940) and Steve Coogan (1965).
It is Teacher Day in Poland.
14 October 2009
Daily Chat 14/10/09
Born today: William Penn (1644-1718), Eamon de Valera (1882-1975), e.e. cummings (1894-1962), Hannah Arendt (1906-1975), Roger Moore (1927), Cliff Richard (1940) and Steve Coogan (1965).
It is Teacher Day in Poland.
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Re yesterday: When I encountered Breeze some time ago, I was told she was quite well known by Jay and, erm, someone else. (Sorry for not remembering. Maybe I should just delete this post and stay silent.) They wallowed in nostalgy and cricket (I guess) metaphors cryptic to me when writing about their first encounters.
ReplyDeleteSo Breeze seems not to be ultima (Jay would know otherwise, wouldn't he), although her/his mind seems to work in a similar vein.
"Rejected by girls!
And you're to blame -
You gave feminism a bad name!"
Ouch! Too early in the day for Bon Jovi, even as a spoof ;-)
ReplyDeleteLord Summerisle
ReplyDeleteYour love is like bad feminism !
Made I chuckle...
Re: women and poetry
ReplyDeleteWoah, your halfway there
Woah, living on Pam Ayres
I'll get me coat.
On CiF did Bid-i-sha
ReplyDeleteA pile of total shite decree
Where MacShane, the king of bullshit ran
through bollocks measureless to man
While Seaton mods in glee
Hmmm .. needs work. Or drugs.
This pertry bollocks gets me down.
ReplyDeleteSo please don't do it chaps,
I'm asking nice and quietly,
DON'T MAKE ME USE THE CAPS!
To rant or not to rant - that is the question.
ReplyDeleteWhether tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous patriarchy,
Or to take arms against a sea of misogyny
And by opposing it, look silly. To write, to rant ...
Sorry, colin, saw your comment to late.
ReplyDeleteI hope this doesn't fetch your hate.
You young fools! your meddling has unleashed a monster.
ReplyDeleteSeaton, Seaton what have you eaton?
Farts flow from your finger tips,
Seaton Seaton, you can't be beaten,
If you could we'd bring the whips.
LordS - genius. Get over to the Dan Brown thread and show those suckers some real poetry!
ReplyDeleteYesterday in the Cif-air
ReplyDeleteI saw a post that wasn't there
It wasn't there again today
I swear that post has gone away
ROFL thauma! Genius!
ReplyDeleteI will arise and go now, and go to Comment is Free,
ReplyDeleteAnd a small ideology build there, of straw and bullshit made,
Nine rants will I have there, a platform just for me,
And live alone in hate-loud shade.
And I shall have some indignation there, for indignation comes dropping slow,
Dropping rom the jaws of idiots to where the feminist sings,
There misogyny's all a glimmer, and sexism a purple glow,
And evening full of patriarchal things.
I wil arise and go now, for always night and day,
I hear teh menz foul frothing with vile growls by the shore,
While I stand in righteousness, or professional victimhood gray,
I hear it in the foul beast's core.
(With apologies to Yeats, who was a fascist anyway.)
Lovely scherf.
ReplyDeleteI am disappointed in you all for getting through fourteen comments without some kind of feminist poetry/Bon Jovi's 'Back in the Summer of 69' pun.
ReplyDeleteBut more disapointed in myself for not quite being able to formulate that concept into an actual joke yet. Grrr.
@elementary:
ReplyDeleteBreeze, err, "breezed" into the collective consciousness a while ago, sent me and Jay off on one of our "dee you ell ell, dull" (apologies to Craig Revel Horwood) CiF Cricket jags, with her pugnacious display of aggressive hitting... oh never mind.
She's not Ultima - she's really not angry or misguided enough. There is, thankfully, only room for one Frothing Finn in CiF-ville ...
The thought of Ultima grappling with the subtleties of the great game is comedy gold.
ReplyDeletezanz3
ReplyDelete"I don't hate women, but I'm sure as hell contemptuous of them, and Bidisha's correct that misogyny is a subtle art - mine is a nuanced, cheery pet to cuddle up with tight at night and ease away some of the stresses of living."
"It wasn't always so. I used to feel guilty about being a misogynist (thanks a bunch, guilt manufacturing rad-fems) and desperately wanted shot of the affliction. Yet every effort to puzzle away the contempt proved a failure. There's a certain way women sometimes do or say things that never fails to curl my lip. Evidenced in this article in many ways, funnily enough."
And he claims thats not mysogeny? It was chilling frankly.
@Jay:
ReplyDeleteIt would have its moments, mate, that's for sure. Let's see...
The bat - phallic tool of the patriarchy.
The ball - ovum-like symbol of oppressed women everywhere.
The England team - paedophiles. Obviously.
Don't forget
ReplyDeleteThe stump - men's fear of impotence.
Did I mean stump?
ReplyDelete*cricket ignorance strikes again*
@thauma:
ReplyDeleteIndeed. Also:
The crease - the safe, welcoming area which all men (playing cricket or otherwise) are desperately trying to get back into.
googly - a patriarchal cricket search- engine , named after the male reproductive organs, and forbidden to women (who wouldn't understand it anyway).
ReplyDeleteA century - the standard unit in which to measure patriarchal oppression.
ReplyDeleteThe bails - symbolic of man's fear of castration by a strong woman.
ReplyDeleteFine leg - a sexist field placing.
misogyny!!!!
ReplyDeleteI should at least be able to spell the flippin word.
The trouble with Bisha threads is that attract some real misogynists who seem to prove her point.
Of course the article encourages them so the sample is skewed!
Ho Hum!
Your earlier comment made me laugh, Thaum,
ReplyDelete...I like my new avatar, it gives me that hand-on-hips-let-me-tell-you-something-matey feeling every time i post...
I hope there's some finger wagging involved as well, with the unhipped hand ;)
Bouncer - singular of a sexist phrase for a short-pitched delivery. Usage: "Nice bouncers, Miss Heyhoe-Flint".
ReplyDeleteNot that I understand all those allusions, but they make me laugh, anyway ...
ReplyDeletecaught behind - a thinly-veiled homophobic reference to perfectly normal sexual preferences.
ReplyDeleteJay - there often is, of course, although in more serious cases a tool of flagellation may be employed.
ReplyDeleteJust out of pure curiosity, thauma, what would one have to say to be at the receiving end of the tool of flagellation, if one were into such things?
ReplyDeleteMy, it's getting hot in here for October, don't you all think?
The beauty of it is that one doesn't know until one has transgressed.
ReplyDeleteI have to agree, Watson, i may have to start badmouthing the weakling O'Gara...
ReplyDeleteA flipper - a previously on-message member of the sisterhood who has since "flipped" sides and now seeks cookies from teh menz.
A Wrong'n - dismissive patriarchal smear for the members of the sisterhood (often used in conjunction with "dungareed")
The full toss - one element of the Duckworth-Lewis method.
ReplyDeleteNo ball - a slightly less patriarchal version of a real man.
Pad up - enviromentally unsound cricketing practice. In Finnish feminist cricketing circles, padding up is outlawed and replaced by mooncupping up.
Cricketing brilliance, although I fear I may be viewed a 'flipper' (and that's not just a name-based gag).
ReplyDeleteeconomy rate - proportion of women condemned to poverty due to masculinist approach to finances
leg spin - rationalising pornification to the detriment of teh womenz
damnit, can't think of anything as good as declaration...
FlipperB..... not a bad moniker actually.
ReplyDeleteA Geoffrey Boycott - a man who feels compelled to defend every absurdity of radical feminism at the expense of all logic and common sense, a self-hating closet patriarch who unceasingly denigrates all men and all their evil works, and who pursues vicious personal vendettas against those who disagree with him.
ReplyDeleteOh, hang on .... I'm thinking of someone else! Sorry, Geoff. Sir Geoffrey, of course, is a paragon of virtue in comparison. (Boycott, 25 not out, 492 balls, 964 mins - terminal boredom finally stopped play.)
Dolly - radical smear for 'flippers'.
ReplyDeleteSledging - what passes for debate in Finnish feminist cricket circles.
ReplyDeleteTail-ender - user of the Duckworth-Lewis Method.
JayReilly - it'd be easier for everyone to spell, there'd be that to be said for it...
ReplyDeleteCorridor of uncertainty - term currently not used in Finnish feminist cricket debating circles. Commentators should use corridor of absolute certainty instead.
ReplyDeleteOver, as in leg, male dominance.
ReplyDeleteDuck, as in out for, rhyming slang.
Let us go then, you and I
ReplyDeleteWhere the Guardian is spread out against the sky
Like a drunkard pissed and slouch'd upon a pavement.
Let us go, through certain half-commented threads
The chattering bone-heads
Of restless minds in Camden coffee bars
And Chelsea restaurants - all with four stars
Threads that follow like a tedious argument
Of insidious intent
To lead you to an overwhelming question...
Oh do not ask "What's the point?"
Let us go and skin up a joint.
In the room the posters come and go
Talking of Bindel's latest show...
Anyhoo - Brum and back in a day is too tiring. I need a beer and it isn't even 5 o'the clock yet!
Ah BB, you should have stuck around and come to visit!
ReplyDeleteYup, Imogen, having been very very good throughout, in the face of great provocation, finally broke - and I have to say, she does it very, very well.
ReplyDelete"wombless arsehole" is definitely going in the book of 'brilliant insults'
Philippa - yes indeed! Beat that, you cricketing types!
ReplyDeleteThaum - I had no idea you were in the Midlands. I was in Sheldon, in fact, at the immigration tribunal.
ReplyDeleteThat comment from Imogen is bloody brilliant. I will take a look at the thread.
ReplyDeleteHalf an hour sarf of the airport, which would appear to be next to Sheldon.... Pop in next time!
ReplyDeleteheh heh - troll's been modded and imogen is still up there!
ReplyDeleteI will thaum! I don't go up there more than 3 or 4 times a year, but I will let you know! Cool! :o)
ReplyDeleteScherf - didn't know Eliot was a fash.
Theres a breathless hush on cif tonight
ReplyDeleteTen posts to go and the point to win
A finnish bitch with a blinding slight
Is flattened by Jay, the last man in
And its not for the sake of a recommend
Or the selfish hope of a posters fame
But Untrusted hands on his shoulder smote
Plat Jay! Play Jay! Play the game.
apols to Sir Henry Newbolt
Heheheh - excellent Sheff! :o)
ReplyDeleteWell, that's fascists for you: great poets, but lousy painters ...
ReplyDeleteI'm so tired I think I am going to have to turn in for the night.
ReplyDeleteNighty night y'all x
Nice one, Scheff!
ReplyDeleteBB - I'll be looking for you.
Still laughing at 'wombless arsehole'.
And now to bed! 'Night all.
OK, I'm not long back from the pub after watching a pedestrian England performance justify their billing as 4th favourites to win the World Cup, ha ha, so the lager and testosterone might be getting the better of me, but I''ve read the paeans of praise above to Imogen and I really don't get it.
ReplyDeleteHer post, cited by Thauma, is a flagrant breach of the talk policy but because it's pro-abortion, feminist and ballsy, it's still there, 7 hours later.
Seriously, she should be in pre-mod for that, if not banned. How is it that the Cif mods allow such double standards?
I would say it's bollocks, but the truth is it's just the opposite.
And "wombless arsehole"...? If keysie, or LenFirewood had used the phrase "dickless man-hater", they would have been modded, and castigated on here, and rightly so.
ReplyDeleteSo how come she gets to dish out mindless sexist abuse and get feted for it?
Classic example of how the post-1968 Left lost its way.
I'll be around tomorrow evening if anyone wants to discuss this. I think it's a debate worth having...