Born today: Juan Perón (1895-1974), Fred Stolle (1938), Jesse Jackson (1941), Johnny Ramone (1948-2004), Sigourney Weaver (1949), Ardal O'Hanlon (1965) and Matt Damon (1970).
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08 October 2009
Daily Chat 08/10/09
Born today: Juan Perón (1895-1974), Fred Stolle (1938), Jesse Jackson (1941), Johnny Ramone (1948-2004), Sigourney Weaver (1949), Ardal O'Hanlon (1965) and Matt Damon (1970).
It is Independence Day in Croatia.
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Hehe, some good posts on yesterday's thread after I dozed off.
ReplyDeleteMontana, quality rant on the mommyblogger article.
I missed a good thread yesterday - LordS - Utah saints! Took me back.
ReplyDeleteBB - re the drink. I am not really supposed to drink as it makes me feel more rough, but I also cannot eat any diary as sets the asthma off - so that means no cheese, cheesecake or diary milk (sob). I am also not allowed caffeine and the ME specialist told me to cut out gluten!
So my diet is dull. I am off work so worry about money and life is pretty dull as cannot do as much.
For me a couple of glasses of red is a real treat and it also helps me sleep (sleep is a massive issue with ME and most of the time they give you old fashioned anti depressants at a tiny dose to take at night but they make you very thirsty and stop any sort of sex drive too - not good) so I do indulge.
The other week I added up the units - 25! Now that was an exeptional week - mostly it is within the 15 - but it freaked me out so decided to stop. I got to day four and cracked!
I think I have an issue too!
25 - pah - amateurish.
ReplyDelete;-) *hic*
I hear you, princess. Lady Summerisle has suffered with ME since 1990 and though she's not too bad for the most part these days, sleep is still a major issue for her.
ReplyDeleteI won't tell you how many units I get through in a week. Suffice to say that when I told the doctor they (rather humiliatingly) made me fill out an 'at risk' form which asks patronising questions such as ...
Have you ever missed or been late for work due to alcohol? No, or at least not for about twenty years!
Have your friends or family ever felt threatened due to your drinking. No, not ever. Not once!
Grrr !!!
Thauma, I note Jessica didn't come back after it was pointed out to her she was wrong, wrong, wrong about the posters and their supposed 'hatred' of mommy bloggers.
Oh, I think there was also a question about whether people criticising my drinking made me angry.
ReplyDeleteI felt like writing "not usually, but now you come to mention it ...."
LordS, that's funny, I pulled out a human biology textbook from school recently (looking for a crossword answer) and found a similar set of questions in the middle of a section on anatomy - bizarre!
ReplyDeleteIt wouldn't surprise me if the government had decided a module on substance abuse should now form part of the biology curriculum.
ReplyDeleteJulie takes three ecstasy tablets, smokes two joints and tops it all up with ketamine before joining the queue for the Hacienda. What does this mean for Julie?
(a) No effect
(b) She experiences a mild and pleasant buzz
(c) She gets totally mashed
(d) It's a trip to the K Hole
Right, no more posting for me here until the evening. I have some work to do.
Sleep, I remember that.
ReplyDeleteI can still do it a bit but only in front of the tele. Antiques roadshow is good for that.
Drink? haven't got up and pissed in the wardrobe yet so tell myself I'm ok.
LordS,
Damn sorry to hear about her Ladyship.
LordS - I am sorry to hear about lady S. Does she work or is she too ill for that? (If you don't mind me asking).
ReplyDeleteWell I did used to love a good old knees up but just cannot do it now. But yeah the sleep thing is like torture - so tired but waking up over and over again. Nice glass of red helps though.
Just lie to the doctors Lord S - tis much easier. Of course I know a few docs (my uncle and step brother are docs) and they drink like bloody fish.
Niall Cooper has written a good thread on demonizing the poor but the comments thread has just upset me so much. People are so vile. I need to have a break from Cif. Where are all these knee jerk hardcore Tories coming from?
Like Colin, awful sorry to hear that about Lady S, nearly 20 years is an awful awful long time. We have friends with ME but none for so long.
ReplyDeleteYou will clearly have been all around the houses on remedies and treatment - hope she gets better.
She works on and off, princess. She used to have a plum job working for the CPS in London but had to give that up and return home to the sticks and live with her mum for a few years until the worst of it was over.
ReplyDeleteShe's not so bad now, it's more a matter of good and bad days. She takes temp work but the truth is that she struggles just doing that at times. She's not working at the moment.
Yeah, Edwin. She's been round the houses with remedies, from eating raw garlic to taking cold baths. The only thing that even vaguely works is rest and no stress. It's not really 20 years, it was probably five or six with the full blown version and the rest has been just generally not being quite the full shilling if you see what I mean.
Attention: please assemble at the Stonehenge article for the Grauns weekly offering of alternative comedy.
ReplyDelete(I luckily received a tip off from Swifty)
New thing I learned, this ME (could be I suffer from it, too, a bit; my significant other complains about me being always tired quite regularly).
ReplyDeleteHowever, not knowing what ME in capitals means, LordS's first sentence in his first post parses somewhat differently ...
Be careful, Jay, you might anger the spirits with such negative energy.
ReplyDeleteJay, you're comment about the diversity-worshipping guardianista was brilliant! Were I not in my office, I would lie laughing on the floor. When I get back home, I will read it again (those mods better not dare delete it) and cause all my neighbors to think me insane (if they do not think so already) by indulging in hysterical laughter for several minutes at least.
ReplyDeleteWatson, I'm sure if you asked Lady S she would confirm that she both suffers from both ME and me.
ReplyDeleteJay, I'm going to cut Nicholas some slack myself. As I said in my comment (which despite referring to the hat has managed to remain) it's hippy subculture bullshit, but it IS in the CiF Belief section and IMHO, no more whacky than anything else there.
Besides which, after reading the bit where he was buried in Mother Earth, I suspect he's also a bit mentally damaged, so I'm gonna leave this one where it is. Fish in a barrel and all that.
... and someone recommend my comment about Gandalf having his garden paved over for a two-port car park. It's a class gag and it's looking a bit lonely.
ReplyDeleteBegging for recommends - sad, your Lordship. Still, I've done it anyway.
ReplyDeleteGandalf lives in my village. He's not nearly as nice as he seems in the book.
Sad, but this is what my life has come to.
ReplyDeletePS LOVE your Cifatar!
ReplyDeletePPS Nearly 100 comments on an article about Stonehenge and nobody has mentioned Spinal Tap yet. Quite impressive.
ReplyDeletePPPS Except that Swifty has just come in and done his duty!
ReplyDeleteThanks - I can't see the bloody thing! Any idea what you did to get yours to appear eventually? Obviously others can see it.
ReplyDeleteSwifty's got there....
No. I'd tried all the tricks but basically one moment it wasn't appearing and the next it did.
ReplyDeleteThe answer might be just having to wait. There's not just your own machine to think about, if you're posting from work they may have a local cache of pages/elements, your ISP may have one too. Just got to wait for them to catch up with the change.
It's odd, though; I can see (nearly) everyone else's, including some added later than mine.
ReplyDeleteI could blow away the local cache and see if that helps.
Worth a try.
ReplyDeleteHey Jay - I think you should use this as your Cif pic.
ReplyDeleteHad to go and read the Stonehenge piece - Odin on a bike, what keech. Like some of the posters (I like the cut of Gruff's jib) I was particularly taken with the idea of whoever built the henges celebrating 'diversity'. We do know that neolithic people traded far and wide - there is evidence for that at Stonehenge) but we can't project a society of love and peace from what we know.
ReplyDeleteLike Lord S I must stick up for Julian Cope - I have his two big books (not field guides alas) and he is rather good at keeping the factual stuff at just a wee distance from his theorising - in fact he's better at it than many academics I know.
Thauma I too fallen in love with your icon - are you Mrs Mills???
Mrs Mills???
ReplyDeleteJust a random photo I found googling "evil witch".
BoD is a bit effeminate, Thaum, perhaps Chabal would be a fitting tribute to my manly virtues.
ReplyDeleteSwifty has already made some good Spinal Tap comments, ruining it for everyone else as usual...
Afternoon all!
ReplyDeleteNeato avatar, Thaum. Looks like Angelina Jolie in Mr and Mrs Smith.
Just having a read of the bluestonehenge thread. Funny as f00k.
Oooo yes, Chabal! The one of him eating babies!
ReplyDeleteI really dont like the avatar stuff, i dont think its right for a news site at all. Its just too fluffy, its cheap.
ReplyDeleteI think it's quite fun, although it isn't good for the secret skiving. Luckily my bosses are all at a different site.
ReplyDelete"its cheap".
ReplyDeleteTrue, Jay, but not as cheap as coming over here to beg for recommendations, eh?
I agree with Jay here, although Jessica already thinks 'the feel of the page is somehow different. It's.... friendly?' That's all a too Bluehengey for me, I'm afraid. I wonder how long this shiny new thing will distract posters from the issues of crap ATL articles and the eternally ongoing, but never addressed, issues of moderation.
ReplyDeleteHad another look at the Bluehenge thread and goodness there have been quite a few deletions for what is a rather funny and mild-mannered thread. Someone is cross today.
ReplyDeleteTrue, Jay, but not as cheap as coming over here to beg for recommendations, eh?
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't have to if you bastards recognised a class gag when you saw one ;-)
Nice sunset on the pr0n thread, BB!
ReplyDeleteWhat is the non-offensive-for-feminist ears expression for "smoking hot and really cool"? Because that's the word I need to describe how I find thaumaturge's avatar picture.
ReplyDeleteThe Bluehenge is a classic thread. I'd like to think it'd enter the cif dictionary, as per Scherfs usage. A bit Bluehengey...
ReplyDelete*blushes*
ReplyDeleteThat's acceptable in the normal feminist world!
Great front page article on Van Gogh's letters. It so happens that two months ago I bought someone a coffee-table tome of Van Gogh's paintings interspersed with copies of his letters. A beautiful collector's item of a book.
ReplyDeleteWonderful, poignant stuff by one of the greatest and most prolific of artists.
LordS - I prefer the quip you've just made....
ReplyDeleteI don't like the new avatar stuff at all. Can only imagine that they've done it to point at as an 'improvement' whilst doing something invidious elsewhere which will take a few weeks to come to light....
ReplyDeletePosed the cynic(!)
"... romantic love has also become, over the past 40 years, especially in developed democracies, a gigantic patriarchal conspiracy ..."
ReplyDeleteWhile everyone tries to be funny on the squirting thread, suhasini takes the cake.
"Surely he can't be serious," one would think.
"He is, and don't call me Shirley," is the appropriate answer.
Watson - I know - I had to snigger at that comment. I'm all for silliness today. Although the Blair-for-EU-pres thing is getting my blood pressure up again.
ReplyDelete...imogen, what are you talking about? my gf and i have no qualms about SOAKING the sheets at times (and our underwear just more generally, since we get so aroused around each other)....
ReplyDeleteI reckon Dimesnnickels may actually have beaten Suhasini with this little snippet.
Thanks Thaum. That is a clip from a photo I took in Brighton a few years back. Such an amazing sky - truly Turneresque.
ReplyDeleteHmmm.
ReplyDeleteCan't see mine though. Must take a while to filter through to the user... bizarre.
Yeah, I still can't see mine.
ReplyDeleteSomehow I am very glad that I wouldn't recognize most of the exhibitionist posters on the squirting thread should I ever walk past them. Chewtoy, IMO, tops Dimesnnickels on the too-little-respect-for-one's-own-privacy-o-meter.
ReplyDeleteHmm, it seems as if the users on CiF are forbidden to see their own pictures. (See speedkermit on the squirting thread.)
ReplyDeleteTigerDunc, 4:34 pm, squirting thread (where else): So brilliant it almost rivals Jay's comment on Bluehenge!
ReplyDeleteI have just logged out of cif, cleared my Guardian cookies and logged back in again and it's working now - I can see me! \o/
ReplyDeleteThat squirting thread is kinda - well - weird to say the least. I haven't watched shedloads of pr0n in my life, but I am sure I have seen it in films before. Don't see what all the hoo-hah is about. Certainly can't understand why there is a thread about it - unless it is just to generate traffic...
Why on earth are the mods so protective of that buffoon's hat on the Bluehenge bollocks?
ReplyDeleteIs he related to someone? Perhaps Polly knitted the damn thing for him.
LordS will recommend you if you rec me for a far superior gag on that thread. It must be said though that I deplore your shameless begging.
Meh - I've cleared the cache, the cookies, logged out and in, started new browsers sessions and nothing.
ReplyDeleteExpect I will see it when I get home and then it will crash cos that's what Cif does to my home puter.
I haven't been on CIF in a few days, not sure I want to now........
ReplyDeleteLordS,
ReplyDeleteJust taken a look at your work on that thread and couldn't decide which was the gag so I recommended the lot ok?
Your turn.
Hi Dot, have left you something on the panda thread....
ReplyDeleteThanks, Thauma, and those are just the ones that made it out! I've read some hilarious papers before, my favourite had to be the toppling pigeon...........
ReplyDeleteShameless is my middle name, stoaty. I could only find one post of yours that hadn't already been deleted or already recommended by me, which was the DNA one. As shamelessly begged, I have recommended it.
ReplyDeleteI think the mods are being a bit protective of Nicholas due to his rather unfortunate history as related in his earlier I Was Buried Alive In A Shamanic Ritual thread, so I'm trying to be generous myself too.
Woooo now Jay is flirting with Imogen, and she's flirting back...! Ultima will be furious if she's lurking.
ReplyDeleteDot - you mean you don't think panda poo's going to save the world?
ReplyDeleteThanks LordS,
ReplyDeleteWe heirs to Oscar Wilde must stick together.
Gotta love imogen - the woman who was worried about being referred to on this tiny, humble site decides to go global with her real picture and details of her orgasms. Must be an actress thing.
ReplyDeleteScherfig - to be fair, she was pretty relaxed about being featured here. It was a friend of hers who was upset, and probably rightly so as she had nothing to do with Cif or anything else.
ReplyDeleteBut yes, I now know more than I wanted to about her sex life.
I now know more than I wanted to about quite a few people's sex lives.
ReplyDeleteRubber sheets don't sound either erotic or comfortable (couldn't you get rubber sheet burn?), for example.
ReplyDelete"Must be an actress thing."
ReplyDeleteYep. That was some sick thread. I loved it. My premod status means anything I could usefully contribute would almost certainly keep me out of the loop a while longer... bless em.
God there really is TMI on that thread isn't there? Not only Imogen, either.
ReplyDeleteI think I will have to go and wash my eyes out now....
"I now know more than I wanted to about quite a few people's sex lives."
ReplyDeleteYep, not since Pump Boy shared have I heard the like.
Has everyone thrown LordS a mercy recommend now?
"Yep, not since Pump Boy shared have I heard the like."
ReplyDeleteOh yeah...that was comedy gold...an inadvertent.."so I quickly reached for the bicycle pump which I keep on the bedside table"
Who's Pump Boy? Seaton?
ReplyDeleteComedy gold indeed. This was my favourite line from pump boy:
ReplyDelete"I have never claimed Coca Cola to be a reliable method of contraception, merely that on the one occasion I have ever used it, it worked. I have always advocated the most advanced methods of contraception, but 'needs must when the devil drives'."
martillo: well, I have.
ReplyDeletethauma: Not sure. But can you imagine anyone else keeping a bicycle pump on the bedside table?
It's all here, Thauma
ReplyDelete"I have never claimed Coca Cola to be a reliable method of contraception, merely that on the one occasion I have ever used it, it worked. I have always advocated the most advanced methods of contraception, but 'needs must when the devil drives'."
ReplyDeleteYeah, say what you like about cif...that one paragraph justifies everything. Like the line from the Third Man:
#Don't be so gloomy. After all it's not that awful. Like the fella says, at CIF for 4 years under the Seatons they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced "Pumpboy". In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock. So long Holly.#
It was Gulfstream5 wasn't it?
It was indeed, monkeyfish. Those were the days, eh? Someone ought to send him a message soon.
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ReplyDelete#Those were the days, eh?#
ReplyDeleteYes indeed. Doubtful it would last these days. At least one of them would be deemed ad hom abuse and they'd wipe the lot. It is an object lesson in "how to dig yourself out of a hole" though.
I didn't go through all five pages, but I don't think there was a single comment deleted in the pages that I did read. Can you imagine that happening today?
ReplyDeleteI think that was Before Seaton Montana...
ReplyDeleteIt was pre-Scorpio too. Boy, my campaign to institute a "Report Abuse" button really came back and bit me on the arse...
ReplyDeleteBlimey. That is nuts. Good reply though, MF:
ReplyDelete"
Gulfstream5
#Once a condom broke when she wasn't on the pill. Resorting to what I thought was just a yarn, I sluiced her out four times with my bicycle pump filled with Coca Cola - the regular stuff, which I just happened to have handy.#
I might just be very sheltered but why do you keep a bicycle pump handy during sex?
'why do you keep a bicycle pump handy during sex?'
ReplyDeleteFor a quick get away in case it all goes horribly wrong? A bike would be handy as well, but any sexual partner who noticed you rushing out the door with your pump would assume you came on your bike, which would explain - oh lord. . .
"...you came on your bike" - that's one of the weirder fetishes I've heard of, Edwin.
ReplyDeleteTakes all sorts...
I'm thinking this procedure would require a bicycle pump unlike any I'm familiar with.
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ReplyDeleteHank
ReplyDeleteWeird, yeah - but not as uncommon as you might think.
Man who had sex with bike, in court.
#Mr Stewart was placed on the sex offenders’ register but his sentence was deferred until next month.#
ReplyDeleteThat's fuckin outrageous. He was in a locked room having 'sex' with an inanimate object. Who was he a danger to exactly? Wasn't that just an elaborate act of masturbation? Surely 'having sex with a bike' says a lot about attitudes to sex? How can you have sex with a bike?
Think I'll stop there before I say something that might lead to a 'Pumpboy scenario' but WTF?? Outrageous! I know a lad (don't bother..it was NOT me) who used to fuck pumkins...at least they're living organisms..or were before they were picked...what would you get for that these days? Six months for vegetable necrophilia?
Oh come on! You can't be arrested for having sex with an inanimate object in the privacy of your hostel room, can you?
ReplyDeleteStill, thanks for the link, BB: "Karl Watkins, an electrician, was jailed for having sex with pavements" At least I know what Adele is singing about now.
The bike wasn't underage was it? He hadn't done a Polanski...drugged it with a liberal dose of WD40?
ReplyDeleteI take it all back...lock the bastard up and throw away the pump.
"Karl! When I said you had to jump the cracks in the pavement, that's not what I meant..."
ReplyDeleteEdwin
ReplyDeleteNotice you've been posting on Max Dunbar. He writes some cracking stuff. Just done a piece on the Libel racket..
http://maxdunbar.wordpress.com/
A man after my own heart...
#Perhaps writers who get sued are the lucky ones – at least they have had their say. Think of the ones whose books were pulped or turned down purely for fear of libel. Perhaps self-censorship is worse than actual censorship: words unwritten, voices unused, ideas unconceived.#
Kinda makes me proud to be banned.
"Kinda makes me proud to be banned."
ReplyDeleteYeh, but kudos to Jay for continuing to fly the flag for us on Waddya. Cheers, Jay.
MF
ReplyDeleteDamn right it's outrageous. He was in a locked room! I am stunned that this ever got to court tbh...
Presbyterianism, BB. There's still a rather repressive strand of it running through the Scots legal system like the white stripe down the back of a skunk.
ReplyDeleteThoroughly enjoying my newfound collection of Orb live recordings, thank you ;-)
"Karl Watkins, an electrician, was jailed for having sex with pavements"
ReplyDeleteAlas, his defence that he only came for the crack was disallowed.
Thanks again for Max Dunbar monkeyfish, was completely new to me - great stuff.
Alas, his defence that he only came for the crack was disallowed
ReplyDeleteHe should have claimed he was stoned.
Paving? Stoned? Oh, please yourselves!
I do vaguely recall reading that the guy with the bicycle 'companion' had the whole thing overturned on appeal though? Does anyone remember?
Ah. So Frederic Mitterand is a complete scumbucket. How nice for France.
ReplyDeleteGod! Having it off with the pavements. If Karl Watkins is the guy I'm thinking of I actually lived just up the road from where it happened, at the time. For some reason, it never actually got mentioned in The Bolton Evening News; though they gave very graffic coverage to a beastiality case in Tonge Moor.
ReplyDeleteFrederic Miterrand has always been known as a scum bucket, Montana. But in France you don't have the right to splurge people's private lives all over the media unless it is a matter of national security, so the rumours still spread but never escape from France very often...
ReplyDeleteHe is a little weasel. And an up his own arse pseud's corner worthy film critic.
LordS - glad you are enjoying the bootlegs. Keep an eye on the Forum, cos there is often a lot of interesting stuff floating about on there.
Mitterand says
ReplyDeleteIf the National Front drag me through the mud then it is an honour for me.
Not quite sure how the "I'm a paedophile but at least I'm not racist about it" line works. Probably about as well as the "Yes, I'm a sex tourist. But all the men I paid for sex were probably over the age of consent" line. Scumbags to a man, the lot of 'em!
Can't be sure whether it was Karl Watkins but do remember reading about a guy who was tried for having sex with both a bike and pavements. Got sent to Broadmoor for an indefinite period, and rightly so. He was clearly a deranged cyclepath.
ReplyDeleteStay with me, I'm trying to work a "crazy paving" gag into my act....
Lord, this has been and interesting afternoon! Coke douches, rubber sheets, 'squirting', sex with bikes and pavements! What next?
ReplyDeleteWow. Mitterrand - "I got into the habit of paying for boys..." As you do!
ReplyDeleteIt does make me wonder whether there is a worldwide paedophile ring akin to the Bilderbergers or the Freemasons all speaking up in defence of each other. Which leaves Agnes Poirier where?
Maybe she likes to have sex with young Thai boys, as well?
ReplyDeleteI've been trying to post a link about that shitehawk Miterrand half the day. Technical dunceitude has overcome me again though.
ReplyDeleteBeautifulBurnout. If he didn't want his private life splurged everywhere perhaps he shouldn't have written a book about his pederastastic (sic [in every sense!]) pecadilloes? Agree with your verdict on him.
It's stuff like this that makes me grit my teeth when I'm told that the French have a so much
more enlightened view about bourgeouis trivialities like paying money to fuck little boys.
Hank. It leaves Agnes Poirier in the same pit of moral squalor that she jumped into with her nasty little CIF piece.
Ringing congratulations to all of you lot BTW for your reaction to the Polanski defenders.
By the way, I uploaded the photo of the Brighton sunset that my avatar comes from here.
ReplyDeletehttp://img208.yfrog.com/i/beautifulsunset.jpg/
No photoshop, no effects, nothing - that is precisely how it was. And I am no David Bailey either. Just beautiful...
I took a similar one with the old West Pier - or what was left of it - in the foreground but I'm buggered if I can find it now, which is a shame.
"You like Thai?"
ReplyDelete"Yeah. You like shirt?"
Max Power, he's the one...
"From now on, there are only three ways to do things: the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power way."
Or even bourgeois trivialities...
ReplyDeletestaybright
ReplyDeleteDamn straight. Makes me shudder.
It's even prettier full size, BB.
ReplyDeleteMontana - stunning, isn't it? You can see where Turner got his inspiration from.
ReplyDeleteAnyhoo, time for beddy-byes for me. Night all.
Friday tomorrow \o/