tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post7351527330525879899..comments2023-05-21T15:20:58.352+01:00Comments on The Untrusted: 27/05/10Montana Wildhackhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11409705185204787671noreply@blogger.comBlogger150125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-78470029405030077282010-05-28T02:25:04.322+01:002010-05-28T02:25:04.322+01:00James
report on BBC tonight - Brazil gvt. giving ...James<br /><br />report on BBC tonight - Brazil gvt. giving 25% of purchase price to poor people to get them on housing ladder . <br /><br />Economy growing at 5% pa. <br /><br />Unfortunately they are just running short snippets - very little analysis.<br /><br />there does seem to be a movement towards redistribution and more fairness as the economy develops.Lenihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01755748505260253288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-26943385027408111532010-05-28T02:23:19.924+01:002010-05-28T02:23:19.924+01:00Fine suggestion scherfig and as I've put my ca...Fine suggestion scherfig and as I've put my case about Ms Devlin, you might like to start off on why you think the comparison is ludicrous. <br /><br />After all both are women, from male dominated societies, who seized their chances, found their vocations and I'd suggest, had similar views on human rights and the necessity to struggle for them, rather than wait for them to be handed out by those largely male politicians who had, until then, singularly failed to deliver.<br /><br />I don't promise to respond for obvious reasons, but I'll certainly read whatever you post.Bitethehandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11281861801778950498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-70900292227261218942010-05-28T02:17:02.594+01:002010-05-28T02:17:02.594+01:00Oh scherfie
You just gone broke ma heart honeychi...Oh scherfie<br /><br />You just gone broke ma heart honeychile!!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11865148437450521947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-7679939699859934672010-05-28T02:13:34.578+01:002010-05-28T02:13:34.578+01:00No more points, Paul. I did once have the impressi...No more points, Paul. I did once have the impression that you might have something to offer, something from the heart, but I was mistaken. You're just an angry half-baked troll with a very clunky style. Not interesting. Bye.xxxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12466706566688272356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-66089892782595102642010-05-28T02:08:40.765+01:002010-05-28T02:08:40.765+01:00BTH - a ludicrous comparison with Bernadette Devli...BTH - a ludicrous comparison with Bernadette Devlin, but let's pursue that discussion on the UT2 thread.xxxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12466706566688272356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-66852641521815822242010-05-28T02:07:29.418+01:002010-05-28T02:07:29.418+01:00Scherfig
Gawd blimey mate that was a quick revers...Scherfig<br /><br />Gawd blimey mate that was a quick reversal.I thought<br />you,d buggered off to beddybise.<br /><br />Ok let me deal with your points here.-<br /><br />1)You are accusing me of constant jibes?<br />You,re 'avin a larf mate.<br /><br />2)You accuse me of arrogance?<br />Please explain.<br /><br />3)You are yet again referring to my one-off car<br />crash moment.<br />Yawn!If i upset anyone personally and they are still<br />angry with me then of course i would take that <br />seriously.But i had no idea who the fcuk you were<br />that night so i,m afraid you don,t count.<br /><br />4)You won,t be bothering with me until i have something to offer!!!!!<br />Get over yourself!<br /><br />Any other points you wanna raise i,m still here.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11865148437450521947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-85523239462276055802010-05-28T02:05:38.615+01:002010-05-28T02:05:38.615+01:00Paul:
1.33 I,m waiting
1.51 Scherfig--you,re fulla...Paul:<br />1.33 I,m waiting<br />1.51 Scherfig--you,re fulla shit mate! Nite x<br /><br />My reply:1.56<br /><br />You're an impatient little bunny, aren't you Paul? Read my reply tomorrow.xxxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12466706566688272356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-46848050788094832822010-05-28T02:05:03.544+01:002010-05-28T02:05:03.544+01:00scherfig, you say - "You can still comment on...scherfig, you say - "You can still comment on the article - say what you think, no ad homs necessary."<br /><br />I'm still bemused about the constant references to ad homs, but nevertheless, on the article, for translating it from Danish, you provided us with something we'd have unlikely heard about and I should have recorded that earlier.<br /><br />And as you say in your translation, Özlem Cekic provides a stunning example of "rags to riches" progress, and an eye opening example of what can be achieved when someone with commitment, dedication and enthusiasm decides that their future lies in politics. (or any other aspect of life).<br /><br />And if she is unusual, she is far from being unique.<br /><br />Let me point to the case of Bernadette Devlin, a young, largely unknown civil rights activist in the Six Counties who with the support, some of it totally opportunist, was elected to Westminster, and had the honour of being the only women ever to have physically attacked the Home Secretary, Reginald Mauldling, on the floor of the house, for his role in the Bloody Sunday massacre, about which the most recent enquiry is about to be published.<br /><br />So as I know nothing about Danish politics and even less about sheep, that's about all I can contribute.Bitethehandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11281861801778950498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-30522700180261051222010-05-28T02:02:34.308+01:002010-05-28T02:02:34.308+01:00Looks like he's gone just as I'd got a ste...Looks like he's gone just as I'd got a steady dongle signal.<br /><br /><b> Leni </b> - I think your understanding of the mechanics and the dynamics of UT is well founded.<br /><br />It is open to Montana to shape it any different way she wants. She is well respected and I'm sure that any directions she wished to give would be responded to.deano30https://www.blogger.com/profile/12637249297224887297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-39912651308408691362010-05-28T01:56:15.733+01:002010-05-28T01:56:15.733+01:00Sort what out Paul? You've been here a couple ...Sort what out Paul? You've been here a couple of months, and have already made a total arse of yourself by being racist and abusing everybody as cunts and fuckers, and now it's all forgotten and forgiven and you're accusing me of not contributing anything? If you had any self-awareness or intelligence you would realise that you're a very small fish in a very small pond who arrogantly feels at home here but has yet to prove himself. You are certainly very welcome to post here, and I'm sure that eventually you will have something to offer, but at the moment your own sense of self-worth far outstrips any dispassionate judgment of what you have actually produced. And I'm just a little tired of your constant jibes that I have never contributed anything here. What the fuck would you know about that? If I don't contribute much here any more, then part of the reason is that boring say-nothing fucks like you have become the regulars. Sorry mate, but you're just not interesting enough for me to be bothered with. <br /><br />Has that sorted it out for you once and for all? Just answer yes or no, because I won't be bothering with you again until you have something to offer.xxxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12466706566688272356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-2077086168728435522010-05-28T01:55:27.930+01:002010-05-28T01:55:27.930+01:00Scherf for the record I responded to your recent U...Scherf for the record I responded to your recent UT2 posting as follows:<br /><br /><i>"deano30 said...<br />Interesting Scherf<br /><br />I noted that time on the 'shopfloor' with fellow workers made an important contribution to Ozlem's development and understanding of all things Danish. So many in the UK used to have that kind of experience.<br /><br />Sitting by nellie wasn't all about learning the skills of the job. For many in the working class in the UK, and elsewhere, it often seemed an important starting point (depending on who nellie was) in developing political and economic understanding.<br /><br />Was there any more information about the vehicle of Ozlem's progress - trade union/ local constituency/party activist etc. Local continuing education or perhaps fell in with a crowd of activists?.<br /><br />Wish we had many more stories like this to tell.<br /><br />I sometimes wonder what places like Ruskin/ Northern/NewBattle Abbey/Coleg Harlech etc Colleges have been turning out for the last 15-20 years.<br />06 May, 2010 18:31" </i><br /><br />Scherf fact is you chose not to respond to my enquiry. Perhaps you have a selective memory.deano30https://www.blogger.com/profile/12637249297224887297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-42753905643367741252010-05-28T01:51:50.581+01:002010-05-28T01:51:50.581+01:00Well it seems that our friend cocooned in the
ten...Well it seems that our friend cocooned in the <br />tender embrace of Danish welfarism has decided<br />to log-off rather than accept my offer to sort<br />things out once and for all.<br /><br />Scherfig--you,re fulla shit mate!<br /><br />Nite xUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11865148437450521947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-74222967965584332492010-05-28T01:41:52.869+01:002010-05-28T01:41:52.869+01:00"...The majority of your comments here are no...<i>"...The majority of your comments here are not about 'political matters'..."</i><br /><br />I don't recall saying that they were. I have no pretence that they are anything but mostly inconsequential light hearted nonsense. They just attempt to fill a silence that sometimes occurs.<br /><br />The obvious question Scherf is where are all those who were the original "We" who started the place? What was it that lead them to depart?<br /><br />Truth seems to be that the place seems to have attracted more and more contributors as it has become more relaxed. That they are not all to your taste or Hanks may say something about your failures to attract what you what wanted.<br /><br />You can't believe that my tedious efforts have driven them all awaydeano30https://www.blogger.com/profile/12637249297224887297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-69756324789804106332010-05-28T01:38:03.140+01:002010-05-28T01:38:03.140+01:00Sherfig
It is because from the beginning it was a...Sherfig<br /><br />It is because from the beginning it was an open site that I cannot understand your complaint. <br /><br />You want some dissent - some swapping of ideas - the honing of thought etc. i see that . <br /><br />My point is that as there is no talk policy and no mission statement the only guidelines are created by the users. <br /><br />People respond to posts which interest - or annoy - them. Thus the thing is shaped.Lenihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01755748505260253288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-50624817876238572632010-05-28T01:20:15.793+01:002010-05-28T01:20:15.793+01:00scherfig
OK let,s sort this out once and for all....scherfig<br /><br />OK let,s sort this out once and for all.You fired<br />the first shot here so what the fuck is your problem?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11865148437450521947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-71490527139065697562010-05-28T01:19:33.536+01:002010-05-28T01:19:33.536+01:00leni, I'm not 'unhappy'. I'm just ...leni, I'm not 'unhappy'. I'm just past caring (nearly). And 'invitation only' is the exact opposite of what the whole thing meant when we started. If you can't see that, then you understand nothing.xxxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12466706566688272356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-1031171451910703482010-05-28T01:14:40.221+01:002010-05-28T01:14:40.221+01:00deano, I take your general point but you're no...deano, I take your general point but you're not being honest. The majority of your comments here are not about 'political matters', they're about your cock and women and Frederick Furnivall and Frank Harris (and your dogs). I think I get your message all right (I have no reding difficulties), but I don't think it's aimed at me, is it? It's aimed at the young ladies that you 'adore' so much - and it's fucking boring and offensive from my point of view. You still have the right to carry on, but don't insult my intelligence by pretending that you have any interest in what I have to say about anything. Because you don't.xxxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12466706566688272356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-66227753412115420962010-05-28T01:02:45.104+01:002010-05-28T01:02:45.104+01:00Sherfig
as you are so unhappy with the way the si...Sherfig<br /><br />as you are so unhappy with the way the site developed why did you not keep it as a 'by invitation only' site ? <br /><br />As it is open to anybody the site will tend to go in the direction the posters shape it.Lenihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01755748505260253288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-64716650551312273892010-05-28T00:58:04.397+01:002010-05-28T00:58:04.397+01:00paul, you make a lot of asumptions on very little ...paul, you make a lot of asumptions on very little evidence. I don't need to justify or prove anything to you. However, since you're stepping up to the plate - off you go, young padawan. Do something, say something that's not just a boring reiteration of how terribly upset evryone is with this new government. Have you any original thoughts? Express them. Maybe I'll appear again sometime like the virgin mary. (And watch those Catholic references - the UK seems be more anti-Catholic now than it was in the late 1500's. Don't tell yer mum that, although maybe she's already noticed?)<br /><br />Best of luck!<br /><br />Here's one for you. You might consider it an insult. If you do, let me know exactly why. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B435SzgfRk" rel="nofollow">song</a>xxxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12466706566688272356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-68653129501955992022010-05-28T00:44:26.683+01:002010-05-28T00:44:26.683+01:00Scherf my friend you seem to have reading difficul...Scherf my friend you seem to have reading difficulties. <br /><br />I would have thought that you would have liked a more private site like the phonebox. It's not my kind of thing at all but you could then keep out the riff raff - no?<br /><br />Petulance sounds like too much effort for me. <br /><br />For me UT is a social space occupied by a number of interesting folk with a common interest in political matters. I don't comment much on CiF these days so no doubt I seem to hang around here a lot. My contributions here are no great matter and I've no doubt that like many others I'll fade away in due course. <br /><br />I've no criticism of you I usually find something interesting in what you have to say so I don't scroll on by when I see your moniker but I'm bemused as to why ever you should ever wish to waste any more time reading me given your boredom.<br /><br />It's easy man you just scroll on by and thus count me out. It really doesn't take a great deal of effort to ignore that which you find boring or disturbing. <br /><br />I'm having difficulty maintaining a dongle signal tonight so I may not be able to continue much longer tonightdeano30https://www.blogger.com/profile/12637249297224887297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-33842659659635969542010-05-28T00:27:25.336+01:002010-05-28T00:27:25.336+01:00scherfig
If you regularly posted here you wouldn,...scherfig<br /><br />If you regularly posted here you wouldn,t feel the<br />need to appear like the 'virgin mary'once in a blue<br />moon and attack those of us you have no time for.<br />If you were a regular poster here then i might just<br />see you in a different light.Because that way i,d<br />have a more rounded picture of who you are and what<br />you stand for.The fact you are a founder member<br />here means nothing to me-although others who have<br />known you from the beginning may well disagree.<br /><br />Deano made a fair point earlier.If you don,t like<br />his posts,or mine for that matter,then just ignore<br />them.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11865148437450521947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-85905826999903207502010-05-28T00:27:15.477+01:002010-05-28T00:27:15.477+01:00Scherfig - thanks for the link - did indeed cheer ...Scherfig - thanks for the link - did indeed cheer up the evening!shazthewombathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14355160779864137873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-35654176589879715242010-05-28T00:24:40.022+01:002010-05-28T00:24:40.022+01:00'... but since you constantly ignore me (excep...'... but since you constantly ignore me (except to criticize)' <br /><br />Scherfig, isn't that what you're doing to the 'new guard'? You can argue that that's because they're saying nothing you want to respond to, but then that's an argument anyone could use at times.<br /><br />Anyway - need to be awake for work tomorrow. Night all.shazthewombathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14355160779864137873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-4173672644635411772010-05-28T00:17:40.489+01:002010-05-28T00:17:40.489+01:00Bitterweed: I'm a "live and let live"...Bitterweed: I'm a "live and let live" sort of guy. If Test Match cricket doesn't push your buttons that's fine with me!chekhovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12579841013364541334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-77149702905979888702010-05-28T00:09:41.743+01:002010-05-28T00:09:41.743+01:00good old deano, you've never forgotten the pho...good old deano, you've never forgotten the phonebox, have you? Strange that something so inconsequential should loom so large in your memory. I think that everybody else has forgotten about it long ago, but you keep bringing it up. Why is that?<br /><br />You're also sounding a bit petulant, deano.<br />You say 'I have no need for a captive or exclusive readership', but that's not true is it? For you this place is somewhere where you can talk constantly about cocks and cunts and young ladies and how much you adore the young misses' use of language. And occasionally say something about Yorkshire or socialism. I don't really understand why some people find it quaint or amusing, but that's OK. You have the right to do that. I just find it incredibly boring and more than a little disturbing, but since you constantly ignore me (except to criticize) and focus entirely on the delightful young madams that you want in your boat, then it's no big deal for me. Carry on, deano, but count me out.xxxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12466706566688272356noreply@blogger.com