tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post58384893866991869..comments2023-05-21T15:20:58.352+01:00Comments on The Untrusted: Daily Chat 22/11/09Montana Wildhackhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11409705185204787671noreply@blogger.comBlogger98125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-80623745901892814212009-11-23T03:48:20.298+00:002009-11-23T03:48:20.298+00:00Hi-PhilippaB,Leni,Sheffpixie-just reading your pos...Hi-PhilippaB,Leni,Sheffpixie-just reading your posts and watching the news (as far away as i am, i still get pretty good reports though obviously not the close local situations)This is quite dire for many people in the area.What is it with governmental responses to disasters these days?(yes,dating myself)I seem to remember more immediate efficiency and on the spot decisive policy.Is it that our politicions and other leaders are wary of seeming to make a n erroneous call on an urgent matter? the 'image' is what they crave. Pragmatism loses out to vainglory. It's a good thing that the proletariat,the people,the real salt of the earth does care and responds in ways that can pleasantly surprise.I think the police,firemen,med services do their level best to help but they are constrained by the 'powers' hopefully we'll see some good governance and the folk can try to regain their regular life.ok i've calmed down. must say that our local services and citizens have done some good and heroic things under trying conditions.credit where due, although there have been other cases in Canada that should have been handled better.sorry for the rant, but utter ineptitude pisses me off.best to you ladies this evening.bye for now.Boudicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11399010790979190445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-49421774080254573672009-11-23T02:32:50.745+00:002009-11-23T02:32:50.745+00:00Good evening all.(well it's evening here)Bitte...Good evening all.(well it's evening here)Bitterweed-Not sure if we've met before,only posting for a short time. The loss of my cybervirginity was a recent event. Mostly agree re. Johnny Winter, though I put SRV at the top (so young, so good, so sad)I saw a recent "poll" in Rolling Stone about the 100 greatist ever guitarists and Alvin Lee and Johnny Winter were not named!WTF-How wrong is that? I suppose we must consider some kind of generational divide but come on! They did give hendrix #1, Iwon't quibble about that.Anyway, well met sir. thaumaturge-Yes I've seen Buddy GUY live as well.(Vancouver) That man can pick it! The best performance I ever saw was John Lee Hooker(I wish I knew how to link,maybe soon)at the Queen Elizabeth Theatre in Vancouver. He was, I think, 74 years old. Magnificent! Of course, the QE being a very fine and proper venue, there was no smoking or drinking allowed . WE knew this, so we had to get 'pretuned' before we went in, although my lovely little flower smuggled in a flask of single malt down her front. Great memories. Must also send best wishes to those battling the floods.I hope things get better soon. Bye for now.Boudicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11399010790979190445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-73515840825289808542009-11-22T23:44:40.069+00:002009-11-22T23:44:40.069+00:00Check your e-mail. xxCheck your e-mail. xxMontana Wildhackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11409705185204787671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-47220178741991500652009-11-22T23:40:37.855+00:002009-11-22T23:40:37.855+00:00Week or two off, MW. Best all round. xxWeek or two off, MW. Best all round. xxHankScorpiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13220200282805558779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-85101521673314321642009-11-22T23:13:31.057+00:002009-11-22T23:13:31.057+00:00I'm with you, MF. Atheists are way too margin...I'm with you, MF. Atheists are way too marginalised to have any responsibility for it. The federal money for faith-based charities was purely the brainchild of the Bush regime.<br /><br />You still around, Hank?Montana Wildhackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11409705185204787671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-86132494104735672602009-11-22T22:38:26.221+00:002009-11-22T22:38:26.221+00:00Thauma
OK..I'll have another look but my impr...Thauma<br /><br />OK..I'll have another look but my impression was she'd picked the wrong targets. She does identify substantive issues but but doesn't apportion blame for them..but she does accuse the 'New Artheists' of paternalism when they're not remotely responsible for the state of US welfare provision. I'll probably look tomorrow now. Up ridiculously early.monkeyfishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117567260726533116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-82432418159745712892009-11-22T22:28:34.742+00:002009-11-22T22:28:34.742+00:00Should be in your inbox...Should be in your inbox...Montana Wildhackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11409705185204787671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-10069858443250529392009-11-22T22:17:10.193+00:002009-11-22T22:17:10.193+00:00I'm not a great mind-reader, MW. Not sure what...I'm not a great mind-reader, MW. Not sure what your point is, tbh. Email please...?!HankScorpiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13220200282805558779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-19495571044401994052009-11-22T22:14:19.951+00:002009-11-22T22:14:19.951+00:00Too tired to participate in the fray any more this...Too tired to participate in the fray any more this evening - sweet dreams to all.thaumaturgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01116351419774991352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-47502048781921993682009-11-22T22:08:32.048+00:002009-11-22T22:08:32.048+00:00I dunno, Thauma. Hutchinson seemed to be more tha...I dunno, Thauma. Hutchinson seemed to be more than happy to oblige with the talk of white atheist paternalism, to me.<br /><br />Hank -- it doesn't take much of a mind-reader, does it?Montana Wildhackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11409705185204787671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-82697210479444257962009-11-22T22:03:20.749+00:002009-11-22T22:03:20.749+00:00@anne - wrestling in Ancient Greece was of course ...@anne - wrestling in Ancient Greece was of course all conducted as nature intended. Think Alan Bates and Olly Reed in Women in Love, but with better muscle tone and smaller beer guts.<br /><br />As I said the other day, I love cricket and hate rugby union. There's a great book to be written about the class distinctions about organised sport in the UK, and the differences between the SE of England and the rest of England in particular.<br /><br />Hell, I might even write it some day. All I'll say for now is that all my prejudices, as someone from a council estate and comprehensive school background, about rugger and English private/public schools, were confirmed in my first term at university.<br /><br />Obnoxious fuckers, most rugger chaps you'd meet at any student union bar. Meatheads with good connections. <br /><br />One of the rugger chaps I knew back then was studying Botany. Botany?! Thick as mince.<br />Got a third. But he'd also played for Harlequins youth team, and for the Uni First XV. Got a job in the City. <br /><br />Another was on the fringes of the rugger team, lovely chap, completely ineffectual but very charming. He's a partner now at a law firm run by the father of Tiger Tim Henman.<br /><br />Google "Philip Toynbee, fascism and Twickenham". He had more interesting things to say than his granddaughter.HankScorpiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13220200282805558779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-45296988189050863312009-11-22T21:51:43.904+00:002009-11-22T21:51:43.904+00:00Anne - my Welsh mates weren't too impressed wi...Anne - my Welsh mates weren't too impressed with their team's performance this weekend despite the decisive win. Interesting point you make, though, as I reckon the Welsh tend to last better than most to the end of the second half.<br /><br />Hank - I don't give a toss what the players' sexual orientation (or indeed, their class) might be, as long as I see a good game of running rugby.<br /><br />Although that doesn't mean I don't have a good perv where justified.thaumaturgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01116351419774991352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-69808216197757241322009-11-22T21:46:19.485+00:002009-11-22T21:46:19.485+00:00Haven't been on Cif this weekend but decent ar...Haven't been on Cif this weekend but decent article in today's Observer about cohabitation law.thaumaturgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01116351419774991352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-6338482142821543532009-11-22T21:45:32.359+00:002009-11-22T21:45:32.359+00:00Not winding you up, thauma. Genuinely didn't r...Not winding you up, thauma. Genuinely didn't realise there'd been any boy-on-boy action this weekend (-;HankScorpiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13220200282805558779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-49705347625861530342009-11-22T21:44:00.663+00:002009-11-22T21:44:00.663+00:00Hank - nothing wrong with the GAME, its the class ...Hank - nothing wrong with the GAME, its the class origins of (some) players that seem to be the problem here.<br /><br />As to the dreaded scrum (ahem!) goodness knows what happens there ;) But its interesting to note that women's rugby is apparently deemed less acceptable in some quarters than women's football because of the level of contact involved! <br /><br />Wrestling anybody? links with ancient greece I suppose. Hey ho!<br /><br />But then the WElsh game used to be so much better at least in part because pithead pitches were at a distinct angle, the smaller valleys having so little really flat ground.<br /><br />This certainly improved fitness as the teams played half the match UPHILL!<br /><br />You should have seen the pitch in my father's pit village flat it wasn't!annetan42https://www.blogger.com/profile/01250598516297935480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-79370902422790825702009-11-22T21:41:13.770+00:002009-11-22T21:41:13.770+00:00Hank: sorry, the wind-up's not working as I am...Hank: sorry, the wind-up's not working as I am still basking in the glow of yesterday's glorious victory with a previously-uncapped fly half getting Man of the Match. :-pthaumaturgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01116351419774991352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-86909590106403348882009-11-22T21:37:18.095+00:002009-11-22T21:37:18.095+00:00Montana/MF: the impression I got from the article ...Montana/MF: the impression I got from the article was that it was the interviewer that wanted the identity politics, and the interviewee was to an extent fulfilling the role assigned to her.<br /><br />Montana again - yes, they do! Not necessarily the front-row forwards though, bless them.thaumaturgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01116351419774991352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-21364946107029185342009-11-22T21:36:10.184+00:002009-11-22T21:36:10.184+00:00Robert Skidelsky on Cif: "Keynes predicted th...Robert Skidelsky on Cif: "Keynes predicted that by 2030 we'd all be working 15 hours a week..."<br /><br />Sounds about right to me. I'll be doing morning and evening paper rounds to supplement my pension.<br /><br />I'm sure Robert will be fine though. If he's short of a few bob then, no doubt his son will be able to help him out.<br /><br />Apropos of nothing at all, nice to see William Skidelsky getting a regular column in the Graun and the Obs recently.<br /><br />I look forward to the forthcoming Focus piece on meritocracy and the mass media, with pieces from Polly Toynbee, Vicky Coren, Jay Rayner, Max Gogarty etc etc. Online debate to be moderated by Isabella Rusbridger.HankScorpiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13220200282805558779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-15306217009700672842009-11-22T21:33:45.565+00:002009-11-22T21:33:45.565+00:00Monkeyfish. Get writing ffs ! There's brass i...Monkeyfish. Get writing ffs ! There's brass in this shit, I swear.<br /><br />Hank - bad man ! Did you get my last email mate ? I think the key is that it's <br /><br />gmail.com<br /><br />not goodlemail.com, if you get my drift.<br /><br />Richt I'm off to watch last Wednesday's Spooks to catch up on what's really going on in the world<br /><br />Night.Bitterweedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12290137850441509784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-78171162183926138792009-11-22T21:25:24.725+00:002009-11-22T21:25:24.725+00:00Montana doesn't need the link, thauma. All she...Montana doesn't need the link, thauma. All she needs to know is that rugger was invented at public schools as a way for hormonal youths to caress the arses of their chums.<br /><br />Line outs and scrums. Hmm. <br /><br />If Dr Arnold had had access to libido-suppressants, we'd all have been spared a lot of jolly japes.HankScorpiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13220200282805558779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-81275415140155415732009-11-22T21:23:30.629+00:002009-11-22T21:23:30.629+00:00Weird. Still, rugby players do seem to have nice ...Weird. Still, rugby players do seem to have nice legs and butts.Montana Wildhackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11409705185204787671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-28101407811584338982009-11-22T21:19:51.482+00:002009-11-22T21:19:51.482+00:00Oh, and the other thing is: I didn't know the...Oh, and the other thing is: I didn't know there <i>was</i> a white atheist community. Are there meetings that I'm missing? Potlucks and fundraisers that I should be taking part in?Montana Wildhackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11409705185204787671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-46863048425653176632009-11-22T21:17:33.521+00:002009-11-22T21:17:33.521+00:00Back to the black atheist woman:
This phrase that...Back to the black atheist woman:<br /><br />This phrase that scherfig quoted above is where I really lose it:<br /><br /><i>but a fundamental wariness will remain if white atheist communities continue to maintain a paternalistic stance toward both the dissemination of atheist discourse and the critique of African American belief systems.</i><br /><br />See, I just don't believe for one moment that there is any deliberate "paternalistic stance". I just don't think many white Americans, certainly not many left-leaning white Americans, would ever consciously try to squelch any participation in the discourse by non-whites. It seems to me far more an issue of her perception of what's going on, rather than what's actually going on.<br /><br />The trouble is, this sort of statement only fosters resentment in people who would otherwise agree and support her views and it seems to almost become a self-fulfilling prophecy.<br /><br />*Sigh*Montana Wildhackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11409705185204787671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-13386733056049627602009-11-22T21:16:47.090+00:002009-11-22T21:16:47.090+00:00No! It's not working!
Bah
http://en.wikipedi...No! It's not working!<br /><br />Bah<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line-out_(sports)thaumaturgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01116351419774991352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-21374442798697713232009-11-22T21:16:12.873+00:002009-11-22T21:16:12.873+00:00Er, here's the link....Er, <a rel="nofollow">here's</a> the link....thaumaturgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01116351419774991352noreply@blogger.com