tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post2393575915759352894..comments2023-05-21T15:20:58.352+01:00Comments on The Untrusted: 23/01/11Montana Wildhackhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11409705185204787671noreply@blogger.comBlogger64125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-77027178731516166232011-01-25T10:59:51.172+00:002011-01-25T10:59:51.172+00:00Where has everybody gone?
I'd put up a new po...Where has everybody gone?<br /><br />I'd put up a new post but I lost my admin privileges when I changed my e-mail after moving.<br /><br />Its been awfully quiet here have you all gone somewhere else?annetan42 - one eyed queen!https://www.blogger.com/profile/13518209176207787243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-9349294151024975352011-01-24T01:37:01.555+00:002011-01-24T01:37:01.555+00:00Yes, I agree with you about the victims Leni, but ...Yes, I agree with you about the victims Leni, but the point is that until every country recognises Israel as a state, there will be no permanent peace.<br /><br />NNAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-70770978237816482402011-01-24T01:25:22.832+00:002011-01-24T01:25:22.832+00:00Naps
The history of this conflict is littered wit...Naps<br /><br />The history of this conflict is littered with lies, betrayal and rotten politicians. <br /><br />the Arab Peace Plan "002 recognised Israel and offered normal diplomatic relations. Israel rejected - or rather - ignored it. <br /><br />the point now is that I is backed by Eu and Us money , is massively superior in armaments and is suppressing and repressing the Palestinians. <br /><br />My view is that 2 seperate states should exist side by side and that all international efforts should be towards this end. <br /><br />The betrayal of the Palestinian people by Abbas and co is hardly surprising. There is a possibility of horrendous violence now that this truth is being revealed. <br /><br />It is unlikely that other Arab countries will be willing to go along with Erekat's plan to hand over J'Salem. <br /><br />All these politicians have played very dangerous games - for decades the victims of these games have been the people of both Israel and Palestine. <br /><br />Throw the religious nutcases on both sides into the mix and we have an imminent explosion in the area.Lenihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01755748505260253288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-43658618733758393102011-01-24T01:14:05.552+00:002011-01-24T01:14:05.552+00:00forgot.....
Because if there is no diplomatic proc...forgot.....<br />Because if there is no diplomatic process, then there cannot be effective negotiations for things like returning of land after a war and issue like reparations.<br /><br />Egypt lost the Sinai in 1967 and tried and failed to take it back militarily in 73. They failed, they entered into peace negotiations including accepting the sovereign right of Israel to exist. They got the Sinai back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-88006300486640225332011-01-24T01:06:45.143+00:002011-01-24T01:06:45.143+00:00Probs best ignore them Leni
I've only got one...Probs best ignore them Leni<br /><br />I've only got one thing to say on the I/P issue: Nothing will happen at all until the Arab countries get their heads out of the sand and recognise the right of Israel to exist and engage in diplomatic reactions.<br /><br />They're still complaining about the loss of land (ie beyond the UN partition plan of 1947) since Israel's founding in 1948. But within hours of Israel's declaration of independence- in the land mandated to them by the UN, the combined arab forces conspired to invade. They lost. Israel got the land. 1967, the arabs planned to attack, they lost, Israel got more land.<br /><br />Now if, decades ago, the Arab countries had agreed to diplomatic relations with Israel and made peace overtures instead of printing antisemitic cartoons in newspapers then a Palestinian state would exist today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-89573009681967691132011-01-24T00:52:23.296+00:002011-01-24T00:52:23.296+00:00TexasRed hates the Palestinians while StGeorge wan...TexasRed hates the Palestinians while StGeorge wants to destry Israel - cos it's full of immigrants. <br /><br />These people are dangerously flaky.Lenihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01755748505260253288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-37045643307903921172011-01-24T00:47:52.440+00:002011-01-24T00:47:52.440+00:00Texasred and JamesStGeorge have now arrived on the...Texasred and JamesStGeorge have now arrived on the Palestine thread (Nabulski) and are peddling their hatred there. <br /><br />Who or what is winding them up and how do we get hold of the key ?Lenihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01755748505260253288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-92118053108439958322011-01-23T22:35:51.172+00:002011-01-23T22:35:51.172+00:00Off to bed, now so NN from me.Off to bed, now so NN from me.MsChinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03222092870017212864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-7551084585028453112011-01-23T22:34:50.600+00:002011-01-23T22:34:50.600+00:00You're joining us for the march in March then,...You're joining us for the march in March then, Spike? Good!<br /><br />medve & sheff<br /><br />Grim news all round.MsChinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03222092870017212864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-16799808949784580802011-01-23T22:27:58.553+00:002011-01-23T22:27:58.553+00:00Thanks for all your kind thoughts. Feeling much be...Thanks for all your kind thoughts. Feeling much better today. I hope I'll be in good shape to see you all on the 26th March.<br /><br />* * *<br /><br />I never had any great expectations of Abbas and co. Now the full measure of their perfidy is coming out, I just hope it doesn't lead to too much bloodshed in Palestine.Spikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06758437918995364630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-9805105983615186282011-01-23T22:22:03.107+00:002011-01-23T22:22:03.107+00:00And remind me again when Resolution 242 was passed...And remind me again when Resolution 242 was passed.medvehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07982421185865375366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-4920833235100522982011-01-23T22:19:03.008+00:002011-01-23T22:19:03.008+00:00Leni
Can't face the Palestine papers tonight ...Leni<br /><br />Can't face the Palestine papers tonight am having enough trouble with the Turkel Commission report. I'll gird my loins and have a look tomorrow.Sheffpixiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09683877609100026566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-55066493876274795242011-01-23T22:18:49.479+00:002011-01-23T22:18:49.479+00:00Nope, Sheff, sadly we did not.Nope, <b>Sheff</b>, sadly we did not.medvehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07982421185865375366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-9419562613588940622011-01-23T22:13:41.573+00:002011-01-23T22:13:41.573+00:00The Turkel commission, which also concluded, amon...The Turkel commission, which also concluded, amongst other things, that the IDF acted in self defence and that "Israel's three-and-a-half year blockade of the Gaza Strip does not break international law" is a horrible joke....Chilcot in trumps. Did any of us really expect anything else?Sheffpixiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09683877609100026566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-31602710684920965072011-01-23T21:56:55.610+00:002011-01-23T21:56:55.610+00:00Hi Spike
I missed your post - was floored by repo...Hi Spike<br /><br />I missed your post - was floored by reports from Palestine. <br /><br />are you fully recovered now ? The flu is bad enogh but pancreatits is a horrible thing .Lenihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01755748505260253288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-59197291455375074752011-01-23T21:45:00.468+00:002011-01-23T21:45:00.468+00:00IanG
Taxi duty = running someone round, usually o...IanG<br /><br />Taxi duty = running someone round, usually one of the offspring. And yes, usually when I'd prefer to be doing something else.<br /><br />Spike<br /><br />Didn't realise you'd been that poorly - thought you'd just had the flu like the rest of us. Hope things are better now.MsChinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03222092870017212864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-19934945393560232302011-01-23T21:35:04.153+00:002011-01-23T21:35:04.153+00:00@Spike, that sounds awful, hope you on the mend.
...@Spike, that sounds awful, hope you on the mend.<br /><br />The Israeli report, well par for the course. <br /><br />@BB what have you been up to?! And 'Groan' is what we read ;-)<br /><br />'Waddya' - that is what I meant earlier, unsure of the spelling.<br /><br />@MsChin, Taxi duty? Does that mean driving for family or real taxi stuff? If the former I am on duty 2 times tomorrow to take my DD to theatre and back. Clashes mightily with the TV shows I like on Mondays...grrrrr.<br /><br />Ireland on the brink? Interesting times esp if they default on the austerity measures.<br /><br />Thats all.<br /><br />Night night.IanGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758794214952546325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-42164340653088487742011-01-23T21:21:37.002+00:002011-01-23T21:21:37.002+00:00Oh, Leni - a truly dreadful state of affairs.Oh, Leni - a truly dreadful state of affairs.MsChinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03222092870017212864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-41159549122863645662011-01-23T21:14:11.237+00:002011-01-23T21:14:11.237+00:00just reading the palestinian Papers articles.
i ...just reading the palestinian Papers articles. <br /><br />i am saddened, sickened and so downright furious, so full of contempt for all involved that i can't comment. <br /><br />Sick, sick betrayal of his own people by Abbas and his supporters.<br /><br />didn't expect anything much better from Israeli politicians or US - but the betrayal. I'm weeping.Lenihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01755748505260253288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-48366533949807959362011-01-23T20:59:19.338+00:002011-01-23T20:59:19.338+00:00God, Spike! I hope you are ok, mister. Sending hug...God, Spike! I hope you are ok, mister. Sending hugs and good vibes your way. x<br /><br />Hi MsChin - I managed to get out of taxi duty today, but only cos I had to go and see my Dad instead. <br /><br />Will check out Waddya and that's it.BeautifulBurnouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01567114567766914717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-35607231988625491912011-01-23T20:26:20.408+00:002011-01-23T20:26:20.408+00:00My sympathies, BB! I'm only now recovering pro...My sympathies, BB! I'm only now recovering properly after eight weeks of feeling totally crap. I've added pancreatitis to those things I definitely don't want to get again. I've never been ill for so long.Spikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06758437918995364630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-8190314926505694792011-01-23T20:15:59.283+00:002011-01-23T20:15:59.283+00:00Spike
Thanks fo rthose kind words and yep! Cheese...Spike<br /><br />Thanks fo rthose kind words and yep! Cheese it is.<br /><br />Right, taxi duty so back later.MsChinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03222092870017212864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-48940111282548047322011-01-23T20:14:55.387+00:002011-01-23T20:14:55.387+00:00Hello BB. And save your stomach & your sanity ...Hello BB. And save your stomach & your sanity - don't bother with CiF tonight.MsChinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03222092870017212864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-6863193940922699852011-01-23T20:14:06.443+00:002011-01-23T20:14:06.443+00:00In fact, looking at it more positively, Judegement...In fact, looking at it more positively, <i>Judegemental</i> could just be a German Jewish cheese.Spikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06758437918995364630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-40259334290157995152011-01-23T20:13:40.963+00:002011-01-23T20:13:40.963+00:00Evening all
Just having a little lie down and a b...Evening all<br /><br />Just having a little lie down and a browse of CiF after too much partying and then having to do loads of work today with a hangover.<br /><br />Death is looking like an acceptable alternative right now...<br /><br />Not sure my stomach can take much of CiF today so I might give it a miss. I am pretty sure the world won't end overnight if I do. <br /><br />Hope everyone is well. Have to go and prep for tomorrow now. <br /><br />Groan. xBeautifulBurnouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01567114567766914717noreply@blogger.com