tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post2108837547116324066..comments2023-05-21T15:20:58.352+01:00Comments on The Untrusted: 19/06/10Montana Wildhackhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11409705185204787671noreply@blogger.comBlogger149125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-32909451531887794292010-06-20T02:58:59.585+01:002010-06-20T02:58:59.585+01:00Hi Chekhov
thankyou. Will try to catch it on Ipla...Hi Chekhov<br /><br />thankyou. Will try to catch it on Iplayer . Look forward to sox pics.Lenihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01755748505260253288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-55509060413133257252010-06-20T02:53:36.529+01:002010-06-20T02:53:36.529+01:00Paul
I am not questioning individual policemen no...Paul<br /><br />I am not questioning individual policemen nor suggesting they are all thugs. <br /><br />Yes their role is to enforce laws enacted by the politicos. But - and it is a big but - we also have to ask who do some of the more recent laws serve and how have they changed the role and nature of policing ?<br /><br />Why for example was it necessary to outlaw secondary picketing ? How many innocent people have been negatively affected by the anti-terrorist laws and how much have our basic freedoms been eroded by them - by how much have they strengthened police powers ? This is an area which really needs examining.Lenihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01755748505260253288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-9604217279804298732010-06-20T02:44:43.879+01:002010-06-20T02:44:43.879+01:00Hi Leni, if you want pics of my socks I will move ...Hi Leni, if you want pics of my socks I will move hell and high water to get them to you.<br />I haven't got a clue how to do it myself but I think I might know someone who can!<br />BTW; I know you are interested in drama so you might have caught yesterdays afternoon play on Radio 4. (Whoopie Goldberg's Country Life)<br />I missed it myself but have just spent two days working with one of the actors who performed on it. She is called Nicola Gardner and comes from Ghana and she now lives in Manchester. <br />What a delightful woman who knows how to tell a good story.<br />You can catch it on i player as I intend to do tomorrow.chekhovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12579841013364541334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-40484688675684205182010-06-20T02:41:46.573+01:002010-06-20T02:41:46.573+01:00Evening all
The police are the agents of the stat...Evening all<br /><br />The police are the agents of the state.And it is their job to enforce the laws that are drawn up by the state.Without the police we will have anarchy.And it is perhaps that fear of anarchy that makes most people instinctively turn a blind eye to police abuses of power.Especially when the media plays such a key role in fuelling public fears.<br /><br />An example of this is the role the media once played in fuelling public fears about the'Black Mugger'.And the consequence of this was extremely heavy-handed policing in many Black communities which alienated the decent law-abiding majority of Black people.Another example is the appalling abuses of police power that occurred during the Miners Strike.Again the police did the states bidding whilst the media demonised the miners in the eyes of many British people-especially middle class British people.<br /><br />As i,ve got older my views towards the police have shifted.I don,t think they are all bastards.And i accept they have a bloody awful job to do.They do after all have to deal with a side to British society that most people are not exposed too.And things ain,t as bad as they were in the 70,s and 80,s.I know people then who were savagely beaten up in the police cells.Stoke Newington Police Station especially had a bad reputation.I know people who were stitched up by the police,taken to court,found not guilty and then fuck all action was taken against the police officers who were clearly lying.I myself have lost count of the number of times i was stopped and searched when i was younger.When all i was doing was going about my business.So i know there was something rotten at the core of the police which i like to think is not so much a problem now.But then the terrorist threat is now leading to police abuses of power so there is clearly still a problem.But as i say things could be a lot worse.And i,ve witnessed police also being wrongly accused as well by members of the public.And that needs to be recognized too.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11865148437450521947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-73450211360433992362010-06-20T02:32:38.129+01:002010-06-20T02:32:38.129+01:00Hank
The huge problem we face is that internation...Hank<br /><br />The huge problem we face is that international capital does not have to confront in a political sense - it has effectively negated politics - party politics as we knew it. The multinats do not confront or oppress the unemployed for example - they don't need to as they simply move their operations elsewhere if their employees become more demanding. There is always somewhere cheaper with a more compliant (desperate) workforce. As there is no direct confrontation from capital it makes resistance difficult - you can't resist when there is nothing pushing back at you ! **<br /><br />This leaves national gvts. to face the civil unrest which comes from the disaffected and rejected. This is where the police enter the arena. So yes - the question is "Who do they serve?" <br /><br />** Different matter in the public sector.Lenihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01755748505260253288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-39945678990935999512010-06-20T02:29:49.659+01:002010-06-20T02:29:49.659+01:00Hello everybody, hope you're all well.
Do I h...Hello everybody, hope you're all well.<br /><br />Do I have to read back on many days, having been away for so long, or should I just take it as read that Hank still shouts at people and hates them?heyhabibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02723870399254233758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-62890296905305082212010-06-20T02:09:30.068+01:002010-06-20T02:09:30.068+01:00chekhov
like the sound of the socks - can you po...chekhov<br /><br /> like the sound of the socks - can you post pics ?<br /><br />reminds me of the silly christmas jumpers so many men get - and manage to lose very quickly.Lenihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01755748505260253288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-80064502477643523942010-06-20T02:08:23.008+01:002010-06-20T02:08:23.008+01:00Hi Leni - good question. Let's boil it down a ...Hi Leni - good question. Let's boil it down a little further - who do the police serve?HankScorpiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13220200282805558779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-58418629856066347772010-06-20T02:05:16.726+01:002010-06-20T02:05:16.726+01:00If you're gonna stick around on here, speedker...If you're gonna stick around on here, speedkermit, (and I hope you do), you're gonna have to get used to being challenged, and that those who challenge you won't get bought off with jaffa cakes, nor will they be banned for being confrontational and asking awkward questions which upset the cosy liberal consensus.HankScorpiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13220200282805558779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-696923055483512552010-06-20T02:05:05.744+01:002010-06-20T02:05:05.744+01:00Hi Hank
Can i add to your question to speedkermi...Hi Hank <br /><br />Can i add to your question to speedkermit?<br /> <br />neoliberalism - the blight of transnational capitalism leading to unemployment, the withdrawal os state assistance , corruption and the use of local resources to service national debt coupled with the primacy of 'security' has changed the role of the police - particularly the policing and control of strikers and demonstrators - the majority of whom are not criminals or engaging in any illegal actions. <br /><br /> Do the police see their role as protecting the people within the state or protecting the state from the people?Lenihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01755748505260253288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-18926817509699206412010-06-20T01:49:30.808+01:002010-06-20T01:49:30.808+01:00Fair do's, chekhov.
@speedkermit - even unrec...Fair do's, chekhov.<br /><br />@speedkermit - even unreconstructed Leninists deserve a considered response.HankScorpiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13220200282805558779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-12747907784344440442010-06-20T01:45:16.717+01:002010-06-20T01:45:16.717+01:00Hank: I'm all too well aware of the bourgeois ...Hank: I'm all too well aware of the bourgeois shit. It's convincing "er indoors" that's the problem!chekhovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12579841013364541334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-27194363667775249012010-06-20T01:38:27.702+01:002010-06-20T01:38:27.702+01:00BTW; my daughter regularly takes the piss out of m...BTW; my daughter regularly takes the piss out of me and there's nowt wrong with that. We know where we stand with each other but I'm buggered if I'm going to stand for her taking the piss by proxy from some fuckwit Brownie leader with a feminist agenda to serve.chekhovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12579841013364541334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-5291634331098130682010-06-20T01:36:49.989+01:002010-06-20T01:36:49.989+01:00@chekhov - you send your girl to the Brownies and ...@chekhov - you send your girl to the Brownies and "a good school" and you get involved in the PTA.<br /><br />And you moan about being patronised.<br /><br />You really haven't got the hang of this bourgeois shit, have you?HankScorpiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13220200282805558779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-88819829060040313262010-06-20T01:22:47.969+01:002010-06-20T01:22:47.969+01:00Incidentally, the fathers were asked to participat...Incidentally, the fathers were asked to participate in a project with the Brownies and we all turned up to do our duty, only to be patronized with "I have no doubt you are shit scared and don't know what to do"<br />Well fuck that for a game of soldiers, non of were shit scared at all and we all went on to prove that she was so desperately wide of the mark in her prejudiced assessment of the male species.<br />I'm sick of this "men don't know how to relate to children crap".<br /> We are lucky, our daughter goes to good school and it has a good mix of male/female teachers and we get involved with our daughters education through "family learning" and "PTA".<br />Anyway the Brownie thing just pissed me off.<br />As I always say...I could be wrong!chekhovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12579841013364541334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-6837788489367016822010-06-20T01:19:15.333+01:002010-06-20T01:19:15.333+01:00It was a genuine question, speedkermit. I actually...It was a genuine question, speedkermit. I actually think you're a provocative poster in the best sense. You make me think, and question things. But I don't know what you really believe because your posts are usually oppositional. You criticise but you never offer constructive opinions.<br /><br />You're a copper and you obviously believe that you do a worthwhile job. So you post a lot of interesting stuff justifying the increasing incursion of the state on individual liberties. I've often enjoyed the debates you engaged in with PikeBishop on those issues.<br /><br />But, as a copper, you're also inherently supportive of the status quo, right or wrong.<br /><br />You're obviously a bright bloke and occasionally betray the fact that you might have both a heart and a conscience, so, as I said, I'm genuinely puzzled, and would really like to know what it is you believe in.<br /><br />Maybe you could write a piece for UT2 on the role of the police in a neo-liberal state. Are you all fascist bully boys in the pay of the corporations or do some of you occasionally wonder whether you're entitled to a conscience?HankScorpiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13220200282805558779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-46591494396268332822010-06-20T01:09:16.476+01:002010-06-20T01:09:16.476+01:00Child C chose me a pink and white striped Ted Bake...Child C chose me a pink and white striped Ted Baker polo shirt last Father's Day and then spent the rest of the day telling anyone who'd listen that "Daddy looks like a girl". I had to agree with her. It's dusters now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-11931853725046719892010-06-20T01:05:56.030+01:002010-06-20T01:05:56.030+01:00Hank: I wasn't suggesting my daughter was ridi...Hank: I wasn't suggesting my daughter was ridiculing fatherhood. I just thought the Brownie leader was and it was a stupid idea.chekhovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12579841013364541334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-58067972951731197932010-06-20T01:05:48.379+01:002010-06-20T01:05:48.379+01:00Sorry I confuse you Hank. It must be harrowing for...Sorry I confuse you Hank. It must be harrowing for an unreconstructed Leninist to be unable to readily classify someone from their Observer Book of Enemies of the People. I must be a nihilist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-56024124104333287292010-06-20T01:03:30.074+01:002010-06-20T01:03:30.074+01:00Well hope the fathers here have a happy fathers da...Well hope the fathers here have a happy fathers day and don't have to wear insane socks for longer than need be (ie as long as it takes for kids to get snap of dad wearing said socks posted on their Facebook page & bluetoothed to friends everywhere).<br /><br />Night all.MsChinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03222092870017212864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-71323282616396697052010-06-20T01:02:15.250+01:002010-06-20T01:02:15.250+01:00How does what your daughter did ridicule fatherhoo...How does what your daughter did ridicule fatherhood, chekhov? Seems like a nice thing to do.HankScorpiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13220200282805558779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-81782842500353938132010-06-20T00:56:30.211+01:002010-06-20T00:56:30.211+01:00Paul: my daughter came home from Brownies on Thurs...Paul: my daughter came home from Brownies on Thursday with a pair of socks on which she had loveingly painted "Number one Dad" and adorned with all sorts of other decorations. She then informed me that I had to wear these socks in public on Father's Day tomorrow.(so that everyone can have a laugh at my expense)<br />Now, I'm all for a bit of a laugh but what sort of fuckwit Brownie leader comes up with such nonsense that doesn't celebrate fatherhood but ridicules it?<br />If the Cubs or Scouts tried a similar wheeze the feminists would be spitting blood!chekhovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12579841013364541334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-52961342316374454322010-06-20T00:53:25.556+01:002010-06-20T00:53:25.556+01:00You genuinely puzzle me, speedkermit.
What is it...You genuinely puzzle me, speedkermit. <br /><br />What is it you really believe in?HankScorpiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13220200282805558779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-2840946966938108762010-06-20T00:47:27.689+01:002010-06-20T00:47:27.689+01:00Is there an echo in here? I've already stuck m...Is there an echo in here? I've already stuck my hand up to that Hank, but the ballot paper was hardly bristling with viable alternatives. I wouldn't go as far as to say I would have voted for just anyone in order to get the New Labour incumbent out, but it was Scriven or nothing. There wasn't a fucking pom-pom in sight and I've certainly never done anything because an editorial told me to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-24067503690610877332010-06-20T00:43:14.120+01:002010-06-20T00:43:14.120+01:00hank
LOL ya bastard.....Ting Tong Macadangdanghank<br />LOL ya bastard.....<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES_yAdD9r9I" rel="nofollow">Ting Tong Macadangdang</a>gandolfo.....anyone got a rizla???https://www.blogger.com/profile/04347160998916009201noreply@blogger.com