tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post1850644452738967497..comments2023-05-21T15:20:58.352+01:00Comments on The Untrusted: Daily Chat 19/12/09Montana Wildhackhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11409705185204787671noreply@blogger.comBlogger91125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-78499913195885203392009-12-19T22:47:00.117+00:002009-12-19T22:47:00.117+00:00Christmas shopping as yet unstarted. Had to be pu...Christmas shopping as yet unstarted. Had to be put on hold today as #2 child, having been invited to Christmas Disney-themed party & (as usual) having done bugger-all about a costume, needed inspiration with an hour to go... (4m of lime-green material will transform even a 17 yr-old boy into Flubber!)<br /><br />Sheff - hope you have a lovely time. Sounds fantastic.shazthewombathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14355160779864137873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-1334060581344230032009-12-19T22:39:53.144+00:002009-12-19T22:39:53.144+00:00By the way,fair play to Gareth Thomas, shouldn'...By the way,fair play to Gareth Thomas, <i>shouldn't</i> be a talking point (we should be beyond that) but some will make it so.Still don't like him as a player,though: always thought he was a bit snide and nasty, getting in unnecessary digs.Alisdair Cameronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09687226158428057049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-40483729909624056192009-12-19T22:28:58.157+00:002009-12-19T22:28:58.157+00:00I'm late to today's party, it seems. Chris...I'm late to today's party, it seems. Christ, Christmas shopping is bad news, isn't it? Tat to the left of you, shite to the right, with penury straight ahead.Alisdair Cameronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09687226158428057049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-62792939494397173412009-12-19T22:05:03.069+00:002009-12-19T22:05:03.069+00:00Duke - bite your tongue, you evil-thinking man!
A...Duke - bite your tongue, you evil-thinking man!<br /><br />Am trawling through some Waddya, although I'm very close to bedtime so may not get to yer mate.thaumaturgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01116351419774991352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-51405191816006883812009-12-19T22:00:34.218+00:002009-12-19T22:00:34.218+00:00scherf,thauma,
I sometimes wonder if the two of y...scherf,thauma,<br /><br />I sometimes wonder if the two of you are not actually Cif editors in disguise...!<br /><br />Had a quick look on Waddya, there's an extremely interesting post from 'radicalpete' about the shenanigans of his local housing association.13thDukeofWybournehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16369769415906017809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-75518882312719703332009-12-19T21:55:39.246+00:002009-12-19T21:55:39.246+00:00and ps: I'm up all night worrying about how Ob...<i>and ps: I'm up all night worrying about how Obama is going to deal with feminist issues in the now non-existent ship-building industry in the West.</i>thaumaturgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01116351419774991352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-81242219561746395162009-12-19T21:50:07.232+00:002009-12-19T21:50:07.232+00:00'Ships - are they not much more than just larg...<i>'Ships - are they not much more than just large metal phallic symbols? It's now time for Obama to stop building and start talking. And women are with him on this!'</i><br /><br />By Anna Shapiro. (The first in a long series of articles on how heavy industry post 9/11 has marginalised its most valuable assets.)xxxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12466706566688272356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-74035036133391572132009-12-19T21:36:03.035+00:002009-12-19T21:36:03.035+00:00My dear duke,
That doesn't sound very Graunie...My dear duke,<br /><br />That doesn't sound very Grauniesque at all, and I suggest that you sent it to a spoofed e-mail address. Because the reply I got read:<br /><br /><i>Sorry, old bean, we are all attending our Oxbridge reunions at the moment.<br /><br />We are currently under consultation on the possibility of discussing the shipbuilding industry on Cif. Our advisory panel includes Lord Mandleson of Foy & etc. as well as our experts in the subject, Julie Bindel, Polly Toynbee and Bidisha, so one may be assured that the subject is being treated by our most experienced columnists.<br /><br />Please continue to read Cif in the next few days to understand how you should think of this matter.</i>thaumaturgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01116351419774991352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-1574452013492220302009-12-19T21:30:12.404+00:002009-12-19T21:30:12.404+00:00Duke, instead of pitching the article as 'the ...Duke, instead of pitching the article as 'the emascualtion of Shipbuilding man', why not pitch it as the 'empowerment of women in the modern shipbuilding industry'? (Although don't mention that the UK doesn't have shipbuilding any more.) Perhaps you should also mention Korea and Lithuania. And write under a pseudonym with a mysterious silhouette as your pic. Matt loves all that shit.xxxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12466706566688272356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-6670919730526911492009-12-19T21:23:40.179+00:002009-12-19T21:23:40.179+00:00Just got an out of office reply saying:
''...Just got an out of office reply saying:<br /><br />''Sorry we are out of the office at the moment. <br /><br />If you have a request to go ATL on the topic of the emascualtion of Shipbuilding man, please bear in mind that as this will be a predominantly working class article, we have nary the motivation nor the inclination to publish it. So bugger off riff raff ''<br /><br />There you are, I guess I'll just have to stick around here.13thDukeofWybournehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16369769415906017809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-13227240550021507032009-12-19T21:21:41.597+00:002009-12-19T21:21:41.597+00:00My sympathies, Montana - couldn't face it myse...My sympathies, Montana - couldn't face it myself.thaumaturgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01116351419774991352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-14969414998868756642009-12-19T21:21:35.736+00:002009-12-19T21:21:35.736+00:00Even the women hate women here.
Yep. We're a...<i>Even the women hate women here.</i><br /><br />Yep. We're all self-hating man-worshippers.Montana Wildhackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11409705185204787671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-77305640432906158132009-12-19T21:19:58.858+00:002009-12-19T21:19:58.858+00:00Aargh. The sprog's gone to his grandparents&#...Aargh. The sprog's gone to his grandparents' for awhile, so I'd better capitalise on the opportunity to get his presents bought. Wish me luck. Hate that damn store (Wal-Mart -- the only place in town to buy stuff for him) at the best of times. Saturday pm right before Christmas, the place is going to be a fucking nightmare.Montana Wildhackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11409705185204787671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-40258418504330500722009-12-19T21:16:47.887+00:002009-12-19T21:16:47.887+00:00Too true, scherf, I forgot about my self-hating mi...Too true, scherf, I forgot about my self-hating misogyny side.thaumaturgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01116351419774991352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-18632798186360521402009-12-19T21:13:58.458+00:002009-12-19T21:13:58.458+00:00Come on, Duke, you've read the numerous posts ...Come on, Duke, you've read the numerous posts on Cif from Bitey and Bru. You know that we're all rabid misogynists here. Pull up a chair, put your feet up, light up a spliff. It's a very safe place for men. Even the women hate women here. <br />(And isn't matriarchy some sort of knitting pattern?)xxxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12466706566688272356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-78399591820312461522009-12-19T21:08:43.885+00:002009-12-19T21:08:43.885+00:00Duke - you is pwned. :-p
Give Matt my regards.Duke - you is pwned. :-p<br /><br />Give Matt my regards.thaumaturgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01116351419774991352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-4112590891339598192009-12-19T21:07:05.527+00:002009-12-19T21:07:05.527+00:00Goddam, I'm being subjugated by the UT Matriar...Goddam, I'm being subjugated by the UT Matriarchy. About shipbuilding.<br /><br />This is 100% identity issue CiF gold. I'll be back in 5 I'm just off to email Matt Seaton with an ATL proposal.....13thDukeofWybournehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16369769415906017809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-29410636401531057522009-12-19T21:04:40.154+00:002009-12-19T21:04:40.154+00:00Rosie was actually a marvellous piece of propagand...Rosie was actually a marvellous piece of propaganda that did wonders for the women's movement. The men were off at war, and it got the women into the industrial plants, realising that they could do "men's" jobs - although, of course, not at the same pay.<br /><br />Of course, when the men returned from war, some of the women got a bit uppity about having to surrender their jobs and independence.thaumaturgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01116351419774991352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-67956807820813207372009-12-19T21:01:31.544+00:002009-12-19T21:01:31.544+00:00I believe that Rosie was originally from Noo Joise...I believe that Rosie was originally from Noo Joisey, but she's still a shipbuilding sistah.xxxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12466706566688272356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-28807233928403096162009-12-19T20:59:16.511+00:002009-12-19T20:59:16.511+00:00Scherf, I think Rosie was a Yank, but I could be w...Scherf, I think Rosie was a Yank, but I could be wrong.<br /><br />Yes, it's best not to antagonise the Scots. As PG Wodehouse said, "It is seldom difficult to distinguish between a Scotsman with a grievance and a ray of sunshine," or something similar.thaumaturgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01116351419774991352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-57826120712811093382009-12-19T20:49:46.257+00:002009-12-19T20:49:46.257+00:00Yeah, much better, thauma, but we don't want D...Yeah, much better, thauma, but we don't want Duke to feel 'inadequate', do we? :0)xxxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12466706566688272356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-57266659821724748542009-12-19T20:48:00.037+00:002009-12-19T20:48:00.037+00:00What about the wimmenz? What about this chick?
Ro...What about the wimmenz? What about this chick?<br /><br /><a href="http://archive.ccm.edu/Rosie/images/WeCanDoItPoster%5B1%5D.jpg" rel="nofollow">Rosie the Riveter</a>xxxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12466706566688272356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-85682308506414785502009-12-19T20:47:56.559+00:002009-12-19T20:47:56.559+00:00Montana - well, in Belfast, I'm not sure if th...Montana - well, in Belfast, I'm not sure if there were wimmenz, but there certainly wuznt Cafflicks back in the day.<br /><br />Scherfig - that pic is lovely indeed, but doesn't quite illustrate how they dominate the <a href="http://truebusiness.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/img_1182.jpg" rel="nofollow">Belfast skyline</a>.thaumaturgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01116351419774991352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-31871194680830622652009-12-19T20:45:47.220+00:002009-12-19T20:45:47.220+00:00:-( Only UK schools, colleges, universities and l...:-( Only UK schools, colleges, universities and libraries can watch the clip from the shipbuilding movie.Montana Wildhackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11409705185204787671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-29063780576585322742009-12-19T20:40:36.684+00:002009-12-19T20:40:36.684+00:00Oh yes, thauma -- that's one of the reasons wh...Oh yes, thauma -- that's one of the reasons why I want to get the hell out of this place. Even in a 'progressive' city like Seattle, what passes for non-conformity is really just conforming to a slightly different set of rules. You've got to be part of <i>some</i> herd or other here.<br /><br />Didn't mean to slight the wimmenz of shipbuilding. Oops.Montana Wildhackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11409705185204787671noreply@blogger.com