tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post1691771318153311193..comments2023-05-21T15:20:58.352+01:00Comments on The Untrusted: 05/01/11Montana Wildhackhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11409705185204787671noreply@blogger.comBlogger155125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-47763937935631664072011-01-06T01:15:27.093+00:002011-01-06T01:15:27.093+00:00MsChin
Paul, you are of course quite right, women...<b>MsChin</b><br /><br /><i>Paul, you are of course quite right, women are a reserve army of labour, but that reserve army does indeed include people of all races and both genders</i><br /><br />I was responding to Anne's post which included the above.I think you'll find there is some basis for disagreement.I don't accept that female workers today are primarily part of a reserve army of labour.And if women still make up the majority in todays reserve army of labour i suspect it's a relatively small majority.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11865148437450521947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-46205797421102302032011-01-06T00:02:07.384+00:002011-01-06T00:02:07.384+00:00Polly has had lots of practice in railing against ...Polly has had lots of practice in railing against the numpties, meerkat.<br /><br />I must get to bed soon as well as I really have to get up & go to work tomorrow. <br />NN.<br />xMsChinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03222092870017212864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-51352015537732025712011-01-05T23:51:23.799+00:002011-01-05T23:51:23.799+00:00Pollystyrene is great - I wanted to jump up and ap...Pollystyrene is great - I wanted to jump up and applaud when she arrived. <br /><br />Honest to god, there's nothing I love more than a thread full of blokes explaining to me what it's like to be raped.<br /><br />I'm off to bed, before something gets broken.Meerkatjiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13310429329871097576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-85670494308435169802011-01-05T23:49:32.675+00:002011-01-05T23:49:32.675+00:00The radical feminist wires are humming - pollystyr...The radical feminist wires are humming - pollystyrene has just arrived & made some excellent points.MsChinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03222092870017212864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-13163710007119684172011-01-05T23:43:17.524+00:002011-01-05T23:43:17.524+00:00"At least she responded to you; she has ignor..."At least she responded to you; she has ignored my question re: BEM women entirely."<br /><br />TWICE!<br /><br />She's not doing a terribly good job of defending her position. But then perhaps that's because there is no credible defence.Meerkatjiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13310429329871097576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-48685507977810314042011-01-05T23:42:49.398+00:002011-01-05T23:42:49.398+00:00Paul
No-one is disagreeing with you. We only brou...Paul<br /><br />No-one is disagreeing with you. We only brought up the gendered RAL theory in the context of saying that Hakim was wrong in her assertion about preference.MsChinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03222092870017212864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-21619527153908571852011-01-05T23:32:15.622+00:002011-01-05T23:32:15.622+00:00Anne
Regarding the concept of the reserve army of...Anne<br /><br />Regarding the concept of the <b>reserve army of labour</b> i certainly think it's wrong to view it as a primarily female phenomenon in contemporary British society.<br /><br />Over the last 40 years the shift in the labour market from industrial to service based employment has seen a steady decline in male economic activity rates coinciding with a steady increase in female economic activity rates.And relatively few couple households nowadays can survive on a single male wage packet.Therefore IMO the days when women per se could be simply viewed as being a reserve army of labour are well and truly over.And as i stated earlier simply dropping out of the labour market was never an option anyway for many working class women.<br /><br />I think what we have now is a surplus of labour that can't be easily integrated into the labour market and which can be divided into two groups. Firstly there are those who've either never worked or those who've been unemployed for a long time.And a high % of these simply don't have any marketable skills.Secondly there are those who want to work and have the skills but face discrimination on account of their age,disability or ethnic background.<br /><br />I would describe the second group as being part of a <b>reserve army of labour</b>who would be readily employable if employers didn't have access to a ready pool of young malleable employees to meet their demand.The first group however is more problematic insofar as much more needs to be done to make them employable. There is of course also the issue of the inflexible benefit system to take into consideration as well.<br /><br />Sorry if i've repeated points i made earlier but i haven't had time to re-read the thread.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11865148437450521947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-90943740052962104512011-01-05T23:11:15.923+00:002011-01-05T23:11:15.923+00:00Meerkatjie
Thought you were doing a very credible...Meerkatjie<br /><br />Thought you were doing a very credible job there, tbh. At least she responded to you; she has ignored my question re: BEM women entirely.MsChinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03222092870017212864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-66901630419582010552011-01-05T22:57:09.019+00:002011-01-05T22:57:09.019+00:00Chekhov, take 'em for all you can and feel no ...Chekhov, take 'em for all you can and feel no guilt.heyhabibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02723870399254233758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-80122523798642666072011-01-05T22:53:48.666+00:002011-01-05T22:53:48.666+00:00Oops, I probably shouldn't have posted on the ...Oops, I probably shouldn't have posted on the wolf thread while grumpy. I should really have gone to bed as I planned.Meerkatjiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13310429329871097576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-85643101791372847252011-01-05T22:47:03.373+00:002011-01-05T22:47:03.373+00:00Chekhov
Good to see ya! And just think of it as ...Chekhov<br /><br />Good to see ya! And just think of it as getting some money out of the bastards. <br /><br />Anyhoo, early start tomorrow, so nighty night all xBeautifulBurnouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02904723758901189624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-72816999932657045342011-01-05T22:39:54.656+00:002011-01-05T22:39:54.656+00:00Hello everyone, hope your recovery is going well L...Hello everyone, hope your recovery is going well Leni.<br />Re; the problem of boycotting and where there would be left to shop if taken to it's logical conclusion, I have a bit of a moral dilemma myself.<br /><br />My agent phoned yesterday with an offer of some acting work which was great news until she told me who it was for; (HSBC)!<br /><br />Oh dear, what to do? I need the money but how could I reconcile my "bank bashing" credentials on here with taking a job promoting a bank?<br /><br /> How to wriggle my way out of that without seeming like a total hypocrite?<br /><br />Anyway, it's a bit short notice and I haven't agreed to take the job yet but as far as I'm concerned I never said that banks were a bad thing per se, just that they had been corrupted by a bunch of thugs.<br /><br />Then I got to thinking, if I took the job, how I could subvert it into exposing how the banking system is taking us all for a ride.<br /><br />If anyone has any ideas about how that could be achieved, I'd willingly take the risk of not getting paid for my time if it meant HSBC and any other bank for that matter were called to account for their "daylight robbery".<br /><br />If nothing else,this is an example of how easy it is to pontificate about what should or should not be done, until you are lobbed into a situation where you actually realize the interconnectedness of it all!chekhovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12579841013364541334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-89335783868879489672011-01-05T22:37:16.565+00:002011-01-05T22:37:16.565+00:00Meerkat
If you're still around, Naomi Wolf is...Meerkat<br /><br />If you're still around, Naomi Wolf is currently BLT responding to her critics.MsChinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03222092870017212864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-86440604326545585402011-01-05T22:36:49.754+00:002011-01-05T22:36:49.754+00:00Waddaya's days seem numbered from what I'v...<i>Waddaya's days seem numbered from what I've seen...</i><br /><br />Yes, it seems that MantovaniInElSavador has not been seen on CiF since the last day of last year, which might betoken ruptures in the firmament and planets hurtling into shuddering descents and spectacular collisions.<br /><br />Or, it could simply be that:<br /><br />1. He is waiting for someone to notice that he is missing and ask whether JezzeBella will beg him to come back or just wind things up and go into the greengrocery trade.<br /><br />2. He has been to the dentist and swigged a bottle of Vimto and gone gaga.<br /><br />3. He made a New Year's resolution and is now sweating it out with clenched teeth and sweaty forehead and shakes and fevers in the night.<br /><br />4. He finally decided that every time he put fingers to keyboard he just made himself look more of a tosser.<br /><br />The decline and fall of MaraschinoInEurotunnel.Atomboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16130409338997932021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-50054787361511975692011-01-05T22:28:49.117+00:002011-01-05T22:28:49.117+00:00Hello monkeyfish & thanks for the return to re...Hello monkeyfish & thanks for the return to reality.MsChinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03222092870017212864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-48743885902274050892011-01-05T22:28:30.257+00:002011-01-05T22:28:30.257+00:00I bow to your superior knowledge, monkeyfish, but ...I bow to your superior knowledge, monkeyfish, but so many morons on waddya really believe that there <i>is</i> a feud, so it <i>must</i> exist. They certainly seem to talk about it all the time, especially the muppet.<br /><br />What I don't understand is why so many otherwise semi-reasonable posters here play Cif's rigged game. They don't go to waddya to prick a few pompous bubbles, they go to be one of the crowd and to be liked. What the fuck is that all about? Can anybody explain? Perhaps it's because there is no real difference between them and the waddya crowd in spite of the righteous posturing people here like to indulge in?xxxxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12466706566688272356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-49399913412626668802011-01-05T22:16:23.277+00:002011-01-05T22:16:23.277+00:00MsChin
And you expressed it so beautifully, thoug...MsChin<br /><br />And you expressed it so beautifully, though. :o)BeautifulBurnouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02904723758901189624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-56856222821710278282011-01-05T22:14:01.196+00:002011-01-05T22:14:01.196+00:00BB
I'm not amazing or remarkable in any way, ...BB<br /><br />I'm not amazing or remarkable in any way, I just felt another's pain.MsChinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03222092870017212864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-20509367896987384492011-01-05T22:12:36.837+00:002011-01-05T22:12:36.837+00:00Luke
There never was a UT/waddaya feud
There'...Luke<br /><br />There never was a UT/waddaya feud<br /><br />There's a monkeyfish/waddaya-cif feud and an Atomboy/CIF feud, a scherfig/CIF feud, a BW/CIF feud and a Hank/ anyone who isn't Hank feud<br /><br />only there's no real feud cos there's no effective opposition...I used to nip on there to put a few people straight on certain matters (generally, what a bunch of arseholes they were) and, indeed, once they'd assured themselves that whichever incarnation I'd inhabited for the occasion had been well and truly banned, they might stick their heads above the parapet and get all self-righteous for a bit...knowing all the time that it was purely for effect since they were shouting and pouting at a vanished spectre (a fencewalker speciality)...but that was about it really.<br /><br />They rarely ventured over here without getting their arses kicked into oblivion...so, basically..what feud? In the months since I last graced the place with my presence, I know of at least 3 occasions when I've been accused of posting there and clearly we've achieved bogeyman /urban myth/ nightmare status but I'd say 'feud' is wide of the mark...'feud' kinda presupposes vaguely evenly matched belligerents...imagine Mike Tyson with a grievance against a three-legged hamster...'feud' wouldn't quite fit the bill.<br /><br />Waddaya's days seem numbered from what I've seen...and rest assured...I've got my 'victory speech' ready and waiting.monkeyfishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117567260726533116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-4272082448144405922011-01-05T22:07:35.368+00:002011-01-05T22:07:35.368+00:00"Harris2010
Here is my hand, I will walk wit..."Harris2010<br /><br />Here is my hand, I will walk with you.<br />x<br />"<br /><br />MsChin, you are an amazing and inspiring woman. Tears streaming down my cheeks now xBeautifulBurnouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02904723758901189624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-22043829352880014762011-01-05T21:59:32.994+00:002011-01-05T21:59:32.994+00:00"meerkat's stultifyingly 'profound..."meerkat's stultifyingly 'profound' banalities couched in meaningless jargon and second-rate sarcasm"<br /><br />Bless. PeterBracken's made these points before, Luke. Even your insults are derivative. <br /><br /> Unlike you, I've never claimed to be profound, nor would I. But be assured, I won't stoop to the 'profundity' of the racist and homophobic slurs you appear to favour.Meerkatjiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13310429329871097576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-21505961464635715272011-01-05T21:54:40.643+00:002011-01-05T21:54:40.643+00:00luke, you missed giving us a link to your website....luke, you missed giving us a link to your website. How is that going, by the way?heyhabibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02723870399254233758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-53144076688314172972011-01-05T21:44:44.385+00:002011-01-05T21:44:44.385+00:00Luke
I like you more than I like Bitey, so I will...Luke<br /><br />I like you more than I like Bitey, so I will just tell you to naff off instead.BeautifulBurnouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02904723758901189624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-31027187030286123742011-01-05T21:44:12.361+00:002011-01-05T21:44:12.361+00:00MsChin
I think Cath's post was along the line...MsChin<br /><br />I think Cath's post was along the lines of "How terrible to see this from a former feminist". So not exactly in breach of anything serious...BeautifulBurnouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02904723758901189624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1141707904735688626.post-1050184225571573572011-01-05T21:42:50.096+00:002011-01-05T21:42:50.096+00:00(Philippa, if you happen to look in at some point!...(<b>Philippa</b>, if you happen to look in at some point!)<br /><br />Wolves FFS. <i>Wolves</i>!!<br /><br /><br />Right, I'm off to burn stuff....<br /><br />Have a good night all!!James Dixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16299357339538257569noreply@blogger.com